Monday, 26 May 2025

"The question was posed, 'Why do people continue supporting Trump no matter what he does?'"

"The question was posed, 'Why do people continue supporting Trump no matter what he does?' A lady named Bev answered it this way:
“'You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence.
    "'They don't give a shit what he does. He's just something to rally around and hate liberals. That's it, period.
    "'He absolutely realises that and plays it up. They love it. He knows they love it.
    "'The fact that people act like it's anything other than that proves to them that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.
    "'If you keep getting caught up in 'why do they not realise this problem' and 'how can they still back Trump after this scandal,' then you do not understand what the underlying motivating factor of his support is. It's fuck liberals, that's pretty much it.
    "'Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable, and they'll explain some way that rationalises it that makes zero logical sense?
    "'Because they're not even keeping track of any coherent narrative, it's irrelevant. The only relevant thing is: 
fuck liberals.
    "'Trust me; I know firsthand what I'm talking about.
    "'That's why they just laugh at it all because you all don't even realise they truly don't give a fuck about whatever the conversation is about.
    "It's just a side-mission story that doesn't matter anyway.
    "'That's all just trivial details — the economy, health care, whatever.
    "'Fuck liberals. ...

    "'Look at the issue with not wearing the masks.
    "'I can tell you what that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature, and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. ...

    "'They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
    "'Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”

~ post by Volodymyr Vlad Kunko

6 comments:

MarkT said...

That's it in a nutshell. It doesn't just apply to those living in Trump country either, it applies to lots of others around the world who profess to have a more sophisticated reason for supporting him. I believe they are largely just rationalising their emotional response. The primary emotion being an all-consuming negative one directed at the 'liberals' or the left, rather than a positive one in favour of Trump or what he claims to represent.

Rex said...

Yes , and political loyalty has become more important than personal identity. Where have we seen this before.

Duncan Bayne said...

There's a related question, which the Democrats should be asking themselves, but as far as I can tell aren't:

What actions on *their* part, what policies, what statements, what speeches, led to "fuck liberals" being a workable campaign strategy?

MarkT said...

Agreed Duncan. In fact I'll be seeing a left leaning acquaintance on the weekend (who's honest, and compartmentally rational) - who we can agree with each other on how bad Trump is, that I intend to put that question to.

Phil S said...

Hahahahahahaha

Struggling to believe you are credulous enough to repost that Peter. It’s called confirmation bias. Speaks to all your priors. Trump has attracted a pretty incredible group of non establishment types as his cabinet. Doge was an excellent attempt at genuinely reducing govt spend now being sabotaged in congress by RINO. Maha has been a long time coming. Open borders paired with a welfare system is just crazy.
Look around at the shower of wankers that are the alternative. The west is doomed if the likes of Hipkins Luxon Starmer macron de leyen H Clinton Harris/Walz are in charge. People voted and support the more sane candidate and policies.
But feck the angry liberals is just a little icing on the cake.

Tom Hunter said...

The link provided this additional take...
And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred.
And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me.
Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness.
Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness.
They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
Kindness = weakness. Honesty = weakness.
Compromise = weakness.


Pure Projection. In IMAX with Dolby Surround Sound. Anybody who has run into any Leftie online mob will have seen real hatred, in their case of anybody who doesn't agree with them on fundamental issues - and that especially applies to one of their own who steps away - see David Horowitz as the classic example or locally, the shit that Chris Trotter has run into.

You might be better off reading the following, published in February 2016 by US commentator Clive Crook, who I had not known was English until this column, Donald Trump, Class Warrior. He points out the same class divide as he compares his worlds of DC and West Virginia where he and his wife built a house.

many friends in Washington asked why we would ever do that. Jokes about guns, banjo music, in-breeding, people without teeth and so forth often followed. These Washington friends, in case you were wondering, are good people. They'd be offended by crass, cruel jokes about any other group. They deplore prejudice and keep an eye out for unconscious bias. More than a few object to the term, "illegal immigrant." Yet somehow they feel the white working class has it coming.

And this is where his background comes into play:

I'm a British immigrant, and grew up in a northern English working-class town. Taking my regional accent to Oxford University and then the British civil service, I learned a certain amount about my own class consciousness and other people's snobbery. But in London or Oxford from the 1970s onwards I never witnessed the naked disdain for the working class that much of America's metropolitan elite finds permissible in 2016.

That's a hell of a thing for such a person to observe but it fits perfectly with "Bev's" "analysis in your post. Crook by contrast, on his WV neighbours:

My neighbors in West Virginia are good people too. Hard to believe, since some work outside and not all have degrees, but trust me on this. They're aware of how they're seen by the upper orders. They understand the prevailing view that they're bigots, too stupid to know what's good for them, and they see that this contempt is reserved especially for them. The ones I know don't seem all that angry or bitter -- they find it funny more than infuriating -- but they sure don't like being looked down on.

And the kicker, which is less about hating liberals than hating the systems those liberals support, including all that wonderful healthcare and the economy run for liberals by liberals:
Yet, contrary to reports, the Trump supporters I'm talking about aren't fools. They aren't racists either. They don't think much would change one way or the other if Trump were elected. The political system has failed them so badly that they think it can't be repaired and little's at stake. The election therefore reduces to an opportunity to express disgust. And that's where Trump's defects come in: They're what make him such an effective messenger.