Saturday, 2 November 2024

"The paradox of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is that the phrase is used only by the very people who are suffering from it."



"[W]hen you make an argument like this, a certain type of person will immediately dismiss you with the term 'Trump Derangement Syndrome,' or TDS. ... This is obviously a lazy attempt at deflection—a phrase invoked to avoid having to think about evidence of Trump’s unfitness for office. ... You hear it from die-hard supporters and random people on the internet. But I think it is already distorting some of the press coverage of this election.
   "Here is the problem. What Trump is saying and doing is so unhinged—for example, repeating wild stories that Haitian immigrants are eating dogs and cats—that if all you do is simply describe it, you are the one who sounds crazy.
    "Trump says, for example, that he will use the military to jail his critics. ... * Or maybe Trump says he thinks we should suspend the Constitution ... ** Then your listener says, 'Oh, come on, you’re totally exaggerating. You’re suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.' But in dismissing you, your listener is moving himself farther away from an accurate grasp of reality. He is the one becoming—dare I say it?—deranged. ...
    "Donald Trump has intuitively mastered the techniques of propaganda, which include the Big Lie ... and also the Incredible Truth: a fact so outrageous that people refuse to accept its reality. If ... t if you go way beyond that to do or say something completely insane, no one will believe you’re doing it—even as you do it right out in the open.

“Trump Derangement Syndrome” has its origins in 'Bush Derangement Syndrome,' which was used to describe the truly hyperbolic reaction on the far left to George W. Bush ... But what Trump realised is: What happens if you yourself embrace the hyperbole and go out and embody it? All the rules intended to keep political discussion productive by protecting against hyperbole then work to protect you—and to protect you precisely because you embraced the worst possible views.
    "This is the fate that has been suffered by Godwin’s Law. ... you can talk about immigrants 'poisoning the blood' of the country and foreigners bringing in 'bad genes.' Have two of your chief supporters host and recommend an interview with an open Nazi apologist. Go onto a livestream with a guy who regularly hosts neo-Nazis. Talk about how you wish you had the kind of generals Hitler had. Refer to Nazis as very fine people. And then scream about how unfair it is when anyone points this out. ...
    "The paradox of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is that the phrase is used only by the very people who are suffering from it."

~ Robert Tracinski from his post 'The Anatomy of “Trump Derangement Syndrome”'
* Trump: "I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they're the—and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military…. The worst people are the enemies from within, the sleaze bags, the guy that you’re going to elect to the Senate, shifty Adam Schiff."

** Trump: “A massive fraud of this type and magnitude [i.e., the election he actually lost] allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”

 

9 comments:

paul scott said...

The longer one lives in New Zealand PeterC, the more the infestation of dull liberal retard mentality overcomes you. It gets everyone there. We see it from outside the murky sad fishbowl you live in... But here there is a way out >> Emirates airline. In the meantime, https://mailchi.mp/ronpaulinstitute/elon?e=84870ab2df

Rex said...

Trump saying immigrants are “poisoning the blood of the country “ is chilling. What a thing to say. Horrific for those of us whose relatives fought in WW2.

paul scott said...

yes Rex, when you live in a dying woke and retard socialist country the truth is hard to face . Your currency in NZ is declining value at the same rate as the $US that's about 15% per year but you know stay woke , fall over. This site used to be a libertarian site but like Farrar you all end up sluggish progressives, who couldn't face up to a fight with a paper bag

Tom Hunter said...

Staging by Leni Riefenstahl.

Tom Hunter said...

Actually I wrote about what Trump Derangement Syndrome really is over at No Minister the other day. Apologies for the link whoring but I'm not going to repeat the whole thing.

But as much as I can appreciate Tracinski's effort to turn TDS back on Trump supporters the fact is that it sticks with the likes of him because it is not about mere criticism of the man, his mouth or his policies, but the fact that Trump hate invades every aspect of the hater's lives outside of politics: sport, art, film, TV, the Late Night shows in America, everyday life (see the link for that).

And the irony of this article is that it shows how Tracinski really is a TDS sufferer:
Talk about how you wish you had the kind of generals Hitler had. Refer to Nazis as very fine people. And then scream about how unfair it is when anyone points this out.

The "very fine people" was a crafted MSM-Democrat talking point only made possible because they simply ignored the very next sentence where Trump said where he explicitly condemned the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. FFS even Snopes debunked this years ago.

Same with the "Hitler's Generals" quote, which is from General Kelly, the same guy who came up with the "suckers and losers" quote years ago - also debunked even by people like Bolton who were there and don't like Trump.

You've said that Tracinski is smart and well-informed. On the basis of those things he comes off sounding like every low-IQ Democrat fluffer who swallowed those stories hook, line and sinker and still repeats them to this day. What's his excuse - or did he really not know?

And of course this is before we get to the Stasi shit that the Biden-Harris Administration has pulled which has even got Lefties like Taibbi and Greenwald alarmed, alongside legal scholar Jonathan Turley. I guess Tracinski has no idea about those events either but they actually happened and they scare me more than some loose-mouthed NY lout.

paul scott said...

Here you are progressives >> some reality to shock you into reality https://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Scott/pfbid02mSyvPidG9VhCFNgE6EdaJYBq1Et1RNYvTv5kmHNLWwTtS9ZpQjzSToUFSDnAgNbXl/

MarkT said...

Your criticism of Tracinski is misplaced. If you go to the original article and follow one of the links you’ll see an entire article he devotes to what Trump said about Charlottesville in full context. The problem is not that he was openly saying Nazis are fine people, it’s that he was implying there was a significant group of fine people at the rally, separate to the other group of nazis and white supremacists. If that were true, Trump’s statement would be fine. The problem though is that there’s no evidence there was this separate group of “very fine people” at the rally at all. So at best Trump was just shooting his mouth off without any understanding of the facts. At worst he understood the facts but was trying to whitewash the nazis because he had some sympathy for them. Similar to how socialists whitewash the atrocities of communist regimes. My gut feel is that it was some vague combination of both. Even if we assume it’s entirely the former, it’s still not very complimentary to Trump and those that defend him.

Mark Hubbard said...

I most certainly don't agree with this. At all. The author has Trump out of context on pretty much everything. Which is what the MSM do.

And what's the alternative: Harris with a communist state running America (into the ground).

Mark Hubbard said...

For example: Democrats are warning against Trump as a supposed tyrant who will silence his enemies, while Harris is on record she is going to shred the first amendment, and Trump is on the ticket with Elon Musk who has literally put $44 billion down to protect the free speech of us all.