Q: "To be totally clear do Māori have more rights than non-Māori New Zealanders?"
Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: "Māori have rights as tangata whenua because we're indigenous ..."
Q: "...and so so those are more rights, right?"
Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: "I think those are, um, more also responsibilities and obligations ..."
Q: "So I just want to be really clear here: you're Māori, I'm not Māori, do you have more rights than me in New Zealand?"
Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: "I have more obligations and I think I do also have more rights with those obligations, absolutely afforded under Tiriti. ...Q: "So so do you think then if if Te Tiriti guarantees a carve-out for Māori-specific rights, do you think that if we are to form modern New Zealand on a constitutional basis around Te Tiriti O Waitangi, that we have different standards of citizenship?"Debbie Ngarewa-Packer: "We have different expectations and different rights, absolutely. ... Extra rights absolutely are afforded because we are indigenous, but everyone else gets to be consulted in kaupapa [per our principle/our philosophy]."
~ Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer from her TVNZ interview 24 Nov 2024
2 comments:
If nothing else this bill is forcing the issue to be stated clearly, as per the admission above. Credit to Jack Tame for staying on point, which is more than you can expect from most of the TVNZ airheads.
He gave Packer a lot more free rein than he did Seymour. So typical of Interviewers these days.
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