“You’re still working, you said…?”
“Well, it depends. Work now has to be interesting. I'm finding the bureaucracy is getting so over-bearing. The amount of time you have getting delight from what you do diminishes when you're mucking round with councils all the time.
”It used to be so easy. You used to take some scruffy drawings and get a permit in a week. Nowadays you've got resource consents and building consents and you've got to get a consent at the end for the thing as well. It just takes so long…”