"After months of alternately sucking up to Vladimir Putin and seemingly expressing anger towards him, it turns out the Trump administration has been secretly negotiating with Russia for a while now, cutting the Ukrainians out of the process, and a report at Axios* says they’re now planning to present the plan to Ukraine and force it on them. As for Europe, 'We don’t really care about the Europeans.' I tried to warn them."~ Robert Tracinski from his post 'Tyranny Is Unaffordable'* The report is behind a paywall. The Guardian reports the plan "would require Kyiv to surrender territory and severely limit the size of its military.The draft plan, reported on Wednesday as Russian drone and missile strikes killed at least 25 people in the city of Ternopil, was reportedly developed by Donald Trump’s envoy, Steve Witkoff, and the Kremlin adviser Kirill Dmitriev, would force draconian measures on Ukraine that would give Russia unprecedented control over the country’s military and political sovereignty. The plan is likely to be viewed as surrender in Kyiv.
Friday, 21 November 2025
Ukraine betrayed. Again.
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A point about the Robert Tracinski person. Instead of expecting others to fight on behalf of his feelings and opinions, he should pick up a rifle, put on some fatigues and go over to Ukraine and get on the front line himself. Yes, put his big mouth on the front line to demonstrate just how seriously he takes his own utterances. We all know he won't. Blow-hards never do. Any of these promoters of "let's you and him fight" never, ever do anything themselves. Hypocrites and cowards!
Henry J
Maybe if the US either declared that it wants to abide by its commitments under the Budapest Memorandum or withdraw from it (and destroy the order of peace and security in Europe), instead of the amoral both-sidesism of the current administration. Either borders matter or they dont
Libertyscott
The choice is clear. Either the USA gets fully involved in the Ukraine proxy war on behalf of the UK and the EU or it does not. If it does commit to yet another military adventure (which it will loose), then there will be tens of thousands of American casualties in very short order. There is also the risk of the war going nuclear. If the USA gets right out of any involvement in the war and leaves the mess to those who are directly involved to sort out, then the USA does not suffer any casualties and avoids the danger of a nuclear exchange. It just isn't in the interests of the USA to fight the Russian Federation on the European continent on behalf of the UK and the EU. Of course, any good libertarian is free to choose to commit his own person and property to going to join in with the war. Just remember don't be demanding other people be committed to it.
Borders change. Those of the Ukraine have altered many times. It matters not if they alter again. It's a European tradition to redraw the maps anyway. Same as it ever was I'm afraid. Hence not worth a single American life.
Henry J
Henry, it doesn't need to be "fully involved", it could apply a no-fly zone as part of its commitment under the Budapest Memorandum and this would absolutely turn the tide on the sausage machine that is Russia's pathetic effort to try to subjugate a third order country. Russia is the stereotypical paper tiger (sans nukes) that has had to resort to importing North Koreans to try to fight for it. It wouldn't take much to turn the tide. If the US wants to be an isolationist without allies then it should declare that rather than pretend it isn't breaching an agreement it signed, and be self-sufficient and not try to export to a world that it doesn't care about, and declare that the Cold War was pointless.
Why should Tracinski don battle fatigues and risk his own life, especially when there's other ways to assist Ukraine that don't require it and would be more effective. Just moral support alone would be a start. Henry J's true colours come out whenever this topic comes up, and they're completely at odds with most of his other utterances that sound more reasonable. I suspect that's because he's cosplaying at being a libertarian, in an attempt to infer some legitimacy on his odious support for Uncle Vlad.
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