Obama and the American people are the shareholders. The banks are bankrupt and therefore existing shareholders shouldn't get any say. None of the banks would still be there without taxpayer intervention.
"None of the banks would still be there without taxpayer intervention."
Huh?
Even very healthy institutions like Wells Fargo were forced to take capital they didn't need or want. Only a couple of dozen banks have failed and the only major one was WaMu, open for business the very next day before the TARP funds were forced on the banks.
Why do Progressives need to continually lie to make their case? Oh, yeah. It's because they don't have one that will bear scrutiny. Obama is NOT the CEO of Amerika and we are not the shareholders. Those terms only apply to private businesses. You are describing Fascism.
Agree the Fed and the Federal Government are whores who should be jailed for what they have done. However, financial systems need regulation to ensure greed doesn't get the better of them i.e. the present system where banking reserves have been forgotten about and a pyramid of derivatives written as insurance is a ponzi scheme that should never have been permitted in the first place. We should have stuck to fractional reserves of 10% rather than letting the banks go wily nilly with 0.01% reserves underwritten by a pyramid of derivatives. Also agree there should have been NO BAILOUTS! The idiots who caused this should go under and the strong taken over.
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With the bailouts, isn't the government taking an equity stake, and therefore becoming a major shareholder with a say in governance?
Obama and the American people are the shareholders. The banks are bankrupt and therefore existing shareholders shouldn't get any say. None of the banks would still be there without taxpayer intervention.
"None of the banks would still be there without taxpayer intervention."
Huh?
Even very healthy institutions like Wells Fargo were forced to take capital they didn't need or want. Only a couple of dozen banks have failed and the only major one was WaMu, open for business the very next day before the TARP funds were forced on the banks.
Why do Progressives need to continually lie to make their case? Oh, yeah. It's because they don't have one that will bear scrutiny.
Obama is NOT the CEO of Amerika and we are not the shareholders. Those terms only apply to private businesses. You are describing Fascism.
Anon
The banks are bankrupt BECAUSE of government intervention. What do you think the Fed has been doing with the currency all these years?
LGM
Agree the Fed and the Federal Government are whores who should be jailed for what they have done. However, financial systems need regulation to ensure greed doesn't get the better of them i.e. the present system where banking reserves have been forgotten about and a pyramid of derivatives written as insurance is a ponzi scheme that should never have been permitted in the first place. We should have stuck to fractional reserves of 10% rather than letting the banks go wily nilly with 0.01% reserves underwritten by a pyramid of derivatives. Also agree there should have been NO BAILOUTS! The idiots who caused this should go under and the strong taken over.
Last sentence should say the strong should take over from the incompetents.
Anonymous
"We should have stuck to fractional reserves of 10%..."
No! That's just as fraudulent as that which you excoriate in the rest of your post. Reserves should be 100% or more.
LGM
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