Hands up all those who think the reaction of the world's peaceniks to Iran having test-fired nine missiles, including a new missile with the capability of hitting Tel Aviv, will be to picket Iranian embassies, burn Iranian flags and remind everyone of Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's public call for Israel to be "wiped off the map"?
Anyone who thinks that will happen? No? Brig Gen Hoseyn Salami, commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' air force, said: "Our missiles are ready for shooting at any place and any time, quickly and with accuracy." Any non-violent peaceniks want to take a stand against that? Anyone?
Or are peaceniks more likely to criticise the 'demonisation' of Iran by "a compliant media," like this apostle of non-violence and former Greens' high-flyer not long out of jail for grievous bodily harm, who wishes us to believe that Iran is not a belligerent. Yeah right. Just like he wasn't. [Hat tip Liberty Scott and AB]
Fact is, as ARI's Elan Journo identifies, either with or without nukes Iran is a mortal threat.
UPDATE: Oops! How many missiles? Looks like Iran's Photoshoppery Guards have been playing come tricks on the western media. They can't even lie straight.
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I wrote a reply to that article posted on solo.
However I will add some more thoughts here too:
As has been made clear by numerous authorities like the US, EU, IAEA, UN Security Council (yes even them), Israel and many others whether Iran is bombed is a choice for the Iranian people and their selected representatives.
Why the Iranian regime would like their country to enter a state of siege, bombardment and death is beyond me. The Iranian president and his government were offered massive financial and technological incentives in return for suspending enrichment of Uranium.
Iran must reach an agreement with the US on ALL issues - Iraq, nuclear, etc. - before Bush leaves office.
If Iran continues to flex its muscles on the Gulf region from one side and threaten Israel from the other side then there can be no doubt that the US will strike. However knowledge of uranium enrichment is already in the hands of the Iranian government and striking the nuclear silos might only hinder not stop Iran from achieving its goals.
PC said...
Iran having test-fired nine missiles
Well, I think the Israeli's is itching for war and because of their superior technology, they can annihilate Iran in a short period of time if Iran decides to preempt against Israel or responded back to an Israeli attack.
Those Iranian missiles would be rendered useless by the advanced Israeli Arrow Anti-ballistic Missile defense systems. The arrow system is an advanced version of the Patriot anti-Missile system that were successfully used in the Gulf war to shoot down Iraqi scuds.
I think that the Israelis are smiling and saying, bring it on man.
You would think than nobody in their right mind would try that on with Israel,but then we are talking about a culture of death-worshipers here...
Surely you agree that a sovereign state should be allowed to protect itself against threats to its independence?
However I'm not convinced for all their saber-rattling, that Iran would be willing to start hostilities at the very real risk of losing their own country to the "infidels", should they do so.
Double standards. Iran is a belligent bad guy for doing something that the US does basically every day, and the US are the good guys. Nonsense. (I'm not saying the Iran govt are nice quiet friendly folk; they're not. At all. Just pointing to the ridiculous double standard. All governments are evil murderous scum, without exception)
Surely you agree that a sovereign state should be allowed to protect itself against threats to its independence?
No. WTH is "a sovereign state"? Nothing. It doesn't exist. You're talking about a small group of people who call themselves the government. And they certainly don't have any right to defend themselves in their position as the government.
However I'm not convinced for all their saber-rattling, that Iran would be willing to start hostilities at the very real risk of losing their own country to the "infidels", should they do so.
Of course not. The US govt is just looking for an excuse.
No Anon 8:11pm, some governments are far far worse than others. If you think otherwise, you are seriously deluded. An exemplar useful idiot.
As is Anon 7.10pm who thinks that sovereignty should be cherished above all else.
Hmm..I'm no fan of governments of any stripe but to argue that a government which hangs homosexuals from cranes as a public spectacle, or one which imprisons it's people in concentration camps and starves and beats them to death (N. Korea), is the same as any Western government is simply idiotic.
Or deeply, stupidly dishonest.
kg - thank you. So nicely, and succinctly said.
Mark Hubbard
So one government hangs gays
and another imprisons good parents.
there really isn't that much difference, is there?
Hmm..I'm no fan of governments of any stripe but to argue that a government which hangs homosexuals from cranes as a public spectacle, or one which imprisons it's people in concentration camps and starves and beats them to death (N. Korea), is the same as any Western government is simply idiotic.
One starves and beats "its" people, and the other starves and beats other-government's slaves^Hcitizens. Which is better? Depends where you live - I wouldn't like the Iranian government running my life, no...but they don't claim any right to, nor do they try. On the other hand, the US government has a lot of unwanted influence over my life. It's not the Iranians I have to be concerned about.
"I wouldn't like the Iranian government running my life, no...but they don't claim any right to, nor do they try."
Spoken like a non-Israeli, a million metaphorically safe miles away.
Spoken like a non-Israeli, a million metaphorically safe miles away.
Exactly. I'm not an Israeli.
But I do have to wonder: why do you warmongering loons care more about the approximately 15 Israelis the Iranians could kill before getting wiped off the map than the millions of Iranians the Americans plan on killing? Is it because "15" is an easier number to think about?
"Warmongering loons?" You mean the likes of Ahmadinejad based on his sweet rhetoric of wanting to destroy Israel, etc?
And why might I (can't speak for anybody else here .. not a collectivist, see) be concerned about Israel?
Might have something to do with the fact that it's the only relatively free country in its region; that as a female I could (and did) live there quite safely and openly; that it's surrounded by 22 Arab states, all of which are dictatorships to some degree and some of which treat women appallingly.
US foreign policy with regard to the Middle East is and has been ad hoc at best. Could have something to do with the fact that the geopolitics of the ME make other hotspots look almost mild by comparison.
Yeah, Mahmoud's a real honey.
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