tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post5219060303356549547..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: 7 maps to help understand what’s happening in UkrainePeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-48802122590401447622014-03-06T10:37:17.109+13:002014-03-06T10:37:17.109+13:00Crimea was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 195...Crimea was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954 by Krushchev.Bernard Darntonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-3825745390859063322014-03-05T15:31:09.620+13:002014-03-05T15:31:09.620+13:00.. so how long has Crimea been 'part of' U..... so how long has Crimea been 'part of' Ukraine ?the drunken watchmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-40612188830871748022014-03-05T14:52:18.901+13:002014-03-05T14:52:18.901+13:00That last map is from 1559.That last map is from 1559.Bernard Darntonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-38410052978137145342014-03-05T09:59:38.816+13:002014-03-05T09:59:38.816+13:00If you look closely at those maps you can see that...If you look closely at those maps you can see that the colours have been chosen to engineer an appearance of similarity that isn't quite as close as it may seem, especially the 2004 one. twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46594209701941341342014-03-04T18:07:40.121+13:002014-03-04T18:07:40.121+13:00Another Michael write, "The parallels are ver...Another Michael write, "The parallels are very ominous and the blame lies with politicians (including the Western politicians who provoke and abandon the local populace) and local thugs, but ethnicity is only their playing card of choice. It's the same card being played now as convenient cover for political ambition regardless of the cost to individual lives."<br /><br />Yes, you appear to be right. The trouble is that most of the commentators you are up against (or about to be) are collectvists and their mind set is always going to fixate on the ethnicity aspect. <br /><br />Anyway, this mess ewas financed by EU, US and UK govt money (some $20-million a week). Shut of the $ spigot and let the residents sort out their own problems.<br /><br />I am wondering whether Vladimir Putin decides to let Eurpoe have a bitter winter with no heating in 2014. <br /><br />I am also wondering why NZ has a PM who won't rule out NZ getting involved in this business some thousands of miles away.<br /><br />Amit <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-15827306843637226772014-03-04T12:09:46.210+13:002014-03-04T12:09:46.210+13:00I don't agree with this emphasis this post giv...I don't agree with this emphasis this post gives to the crisis, drilling down on ethnic data to confuse and legitimise aggression. It's the same cop-out argument that was used in the Balkins (i.e. ethnic hatreds) that does stand up to critique. The linked thesis (below) does a good job of dispelling the ethnic hatreds argument, and lays the blame at politicians and psychopathic criminals (of which key participants were clearly both). http://www.scribd.com/doc/13765362/Yugoslavia-Dismantled-and-Plundered<br /><br />The parallels are very ominous and the blame lies with politicians (including the Western politicians who provoke and abandon the local populace) and local thugs, but ethnicity is only their playing card of choice. It's the same card being played now as convenient cover for political ambition regardless of the cost to individual lives.<br />Another Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-81896679782042840282014-03-04T09:45:46.952+13:002014-03-04T09:45:46.952+13:00What's the date of that last map?What's the date of that last map?Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-73405718256421119752014-03-04T07:38:45.666+13:002014-03-04T07:38:45.666+13:00Democracy and people who haven't grown up with...Democracy and people who haven't grown up with it, a difficult mix. Then throw in tribalism and religion this is the result.Michaelnoreply@blogger.com