tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post3193367715226704947..comments2024-03-30T00:06:46.464+13:00Comments on Not PC: DOWN TO THE DOCTOR’S: “Oh teachers are my lessons done? I cannot do another one.”Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-71697798011694990052013-05-21T12:07:26.752+12:002013-05-21T12:07:26.752+12:00@Mark - point taken about the cherry picking which...@Mark - point taken about the cherry picking which I freely admit to, but which was done to demonstrate the fallibility of the current system. <br /><br />There's no reason why the teachers in chartered schools couldn't start their own registration and recertification process outside of the current state-backed monopoly. <br /><br />The same thing has happened in my own field, medicine, where an organisation called BPAC has a recertification process, for doctors who practice in a general scope, that competes with the government-favoured Royal College of General Practitioners.Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-47611744282567862882013-05-20T18:04:35.363+12:002013-05-20T18:04:35.363+12:00"They would argue that registration ensures a..."They would argue that registration ensures a certain level of teacher professionalism for the large majority of teachers, within the limits of what they can reasonably control - and that charter schools won't have that same quality control."<br /><br />They can argue BUT teh truth is that the "teacher professionalism" they are defending includes an awful lot of child abusing. <br /><br />What they can reasonably control is who is on THEIR list of the registered. If they become aware that a teacher has been publically found guilty of doing child abuse, surely they can immediately rescind that pervert's registration... They don't though.<br /><br />I met people of the Charter Schools movement and it is true, they do not have the same quality control. You would have to hope that they didn't. After all, there are too many perberts registered as teachers who remain registered even after being found criminally guilty. We would expect the quality control of the charter schools to be somewhat different.....wouldn't we?<br /><br />Amit Cim<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />dictated <br />AC; kgh<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-74042600443554586122013-05-20T09:34:11.088+12:002013-05-20T09:34:11.088+12:00Richard - I agree with your conclusion around char...Richard - I agree with your conclusion around charter schools, but I don't think this makes the case. You can pick any profession and you will probably find a small minority of thieves or perverts, but that doesn't tell you anything about the professional bodies they operate under. They can't control every aspect of an individuals behaviour - which I suppose is sorta your point - but I don't think the other side would claim that anyway.<br /><br />They would argue that registration ensures a certain level of teacher professionalism for the large majority of teachers, within the limits of what they can reasonably control - and that charter schools won't have that same quality control.<br /><br />I'm not saying this argument is right, but that's the point that's got to be addressed. Cherry picking extremely bad teachers who are operating on either side proves nothing.MarkThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199883270652041621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-61391238691960803282013-05-19T16:41:46.928+12:002013-05-19T16:41:46.928+12:00"What it doesn't make me want to do is ar..."What it doesn't make me want to do is argue for no controls over adults who have access to children in our charter schools."<br /><br />No controls? What would make anyone think there would be no controls over teachers in charter schools? I imagine there would be frequent surveillance of teachers, and any that didn't measure up would be sent packing. Charter schools would sink or swim on exam results and popularity with parents and pupils.<br /><br />There will be plenty of control over teachers in charter schools. Only it won't come from the paedophile-protecting Teachers Council.Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-56147565914758508752013-05-19T08:23:57.771+12:002013-05-19T08:23:57.771+12:00"Doesn't it make you question just how ri..."Doesn't it make you question just how rigorous the registration and re-registration process is, and why teachers who are convicted of preying on children aren't deregistered immediately?"<br /><br />Yes. What it doesn't make me want to do is argue for no controls over adults who have access to children in our charter schools.LudditeJournohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13154447284268192467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1489586278151662992013-05-18T11:56:49.139+12:002013-05-18T11:56:49.139+12:00Richard
" Doesn't it make you question j...Richard<br /><br />" Doesn't it make you question just how rigorous the registration and re-registration process is, and why teachers who are convicted of preying on children aren't deregistered immediately? "<br /><br />Yes it makes me wonder. <br /><br />Registration does not make children safe. It is not supposed to. It is there to protect the teachers and the guild they are all into. pecial privileges and all that. <br /><br />Amit Cim<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-12263412010380111382013-05-17T20:57:11.022+12:002013-05-17T20:57:11.022+12:00Furthermore, Anon, aren't you just the slighte...Furthermore, Anon, aren't you just the slightest bit appalled by the actions of these duly registered teachers? Doesn't it make you question just how rigorous the registration and re-registration process is, and why teachers who are convicted of preying on children aren't deregistered immediately?Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-9482339370899720742013-05-17T20:50:21.508+12:002013-05-17T20:50:21.508+12:00@Anonymous: At least I put my real name to my opin...@Anonymous: At least I put my real name to my opinions, unlike yourself - and do you really think someone as paranoid as you claim I am would do that?<br /><br />With what part of the past do you take issue? Do you not believe that all but one of the teachers mentioned by name are still on the Register of Teachers? You can easily check the facts for yourself.<br /><br />I have merely pointed out the obvious - that registration of teachers does not make children "safe" and that Chris Hipkins is disingenuous at best (if not a liar). Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-89586834029914582622013-05-17T16:11:27.589+12:002013-05-17T16:11:27.589+12:00This is similar to your Muslim post.
Being passi...This is similar to your Muslim post. <br /><br />Being passionate about ideas, like Mr Cresswell, is a lot different to being a mouth-foaming paranoiac; like yourself.<br /><br />You should read the new bestseller "How to Tell if Your Cat is Trying to Kill You"<br /><br />Just don't take it literally. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com