tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post8922244475695034840..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: Peace in the Middle East?Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-35352551865918674442012-11-30T13:55:24.515+13:002012-11-30T13:55:24.515+13:00Actually the vast majority of Israelis today, incl...Actually the vast majority of Israelis today, including politicians and military leaders, believe god promised them the land. <br /><br />And you can't get all smug about Israel being the only free country in the region when every facet of Palestinian life is brutally controlled by the IDF. Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-3821389028101614622012-11-27T11:49:02.812+13:002012-11-27T11:49:02.812+13:00@Ben: Israel's right to exist is nothing to do...@Ben: Israel's right to exist is nothing to do with an imaginary friend in the sky. (Since arguing about imaginary friends by definition excludes reason, in that way lies only conflict.) Israel's right to exist now is based not on faith or superstition <a href="http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5314" rel="nofollow">but on <i>moral</i> grounds</a>, simply because it is the only semi-free place in the region--and protecting individual freedom is the only legitimate justification there can be for a state. <br /><br />Further, there is no issue of moral equivalence here between states, because just as there can be no right to establish a dictatorship, neither can there be a moral justification for one.<br /><br />@Frankie Lee: What it would first require, before anything else, would be an acknowledgement of Israel's right to exist--which is to say of the right of individual Israeli citizens (Jews and Arabs both) to exist. In peace. <br /><br />But peace will never break out as long as Hamas, Hezbollah, Tehran, and Uncle Tahim Kabillah and vow to wipe Israel of the face of the earth--as they've been trying to do since 1948.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-14717013093895104252012-11-27T11:12:02.690+13:002012-11-27T11:12:02.690+13:00@ Frankie Lee
"Nothing Less than Victory"...@ Frankie Lee<br />"Nothing Less than Victory" by John Lewis might give you a few clues:<br /><br />"Nothing Less than Victory provocatively shows that aggressive, strategic military offenses can win wars and establish lasting peace, while defensive maneuvers have often led to prolonged carnage, indecision, and stalemate. Taking an ambitious and sweeping look at six major wars, from antiquity to World War II, John David Lewis shows how victorious military commanders have achieved long-term peace by identifying the core of the enemy's ideological, political, and social support for a war, fiercely striking at this objective, and demanding that the enemy acknowledges its defeat."<br /><br />Source:http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Less-than-Victory-Decisive/dp/0691135185MarkThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199883270652041621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-3590934423763545322012-11-27T10:51:27.874+13:002012-11-27T10:51:27.874+13:00Pointing out how nutty the arabs are only confirms...Pointing out how nutty the arabs are only confirms how idiotic the formation of Israel was. You can't annex land that your imaginary friend in the sky promised to you and expect anything but problems.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-76813337766937553092012-11-26T23:32:47.023+13:002012-11-26T23:32:47.023+13:00All very passionate and righteously indignant, PC,...All very passionate and righteously indignant, PC, and I don't doubt you mean every word sincerely. But it's still every bit as predictable and one-sided as the "liberal", pro-palestinian view,and every bit as devoid of useful, practical analysis of what an actual solution would involve.<br /><br />What would peace actually involve, in your view, with details.<br /><br />Frankie Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-33656677096669893052012-11-26T20:33:57.899+13:002012-11-26T20:33:57.899+13:00the unpeace in the middle-east is reaching other s...the unpeace in the middle-east is reaching other shores:<br /><br />http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3445/militant-muslims-cutting-out-tonguesOur Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-63057155014635414562012-11-26T17:45:38.971+13:002012-11-26T17:45:38.971+13:00Yep - spot-on, and I always enjoy Pat's hard-h...Yep - spot-on, and I always enjoy Pat's hard-hitting videos on the Fakestinians and Islam in general.thor42noreply@blogger.com