tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post8522643628425616350..comments2024-03-22T11:55:50.335+13:00Comments on Not PC: Nothing to see ... no principles, no ideas ... (updated)Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-41856814993480360412008-02-01T18:42:00.000+13:002008-02-01T18:42:00.000+13:00HahahahaBest laugh I've had all week. If you are i...Hahahaha<BR/><BR/>Best laugh I've had all week. If you are indeed a Taxman, maybe you'd be better served getting your Student Loan agents to get off their arses and make an effort at a civil and sensible negotiation rather than trying to intimidate me from a position of no leverage.<BR/><BR/>And because you won't be able to find my case, you'll just have to be nice to every overseas student with a loan won't you. And pigs might fly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-70072958058818807102008-02-01T17:05:00.000+13:002008-02-01T17:05:00.000+13:00Oh please...lolOh please...lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-437242110766294772008-02-01T16:26:00.000+13:002008-02-01T16:26:00.000+13:00Student DebtorWe printed out what you just wrote a...Student Debtor<BR/><BR/>We printed out what you just wrote and gave it the supervisor. He said it will be easy enough to find the case file that matches up to your profile. You have given enough away to make a match. Count on being caught out one way or another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-81663432303980177692008-02-01T12:29:00.000+13:002008-02-01T12:29:00.000+13:00Elijah,I believe that the IRD can't get student lo...Elijah,<BR/><BR/>I believe that the IRD can't get student loan repayments out of anyone except those in australia & new zealand.<BR/><BR/>Note absolutely sure, but I do know from friends for example, that child support against a salary earned in the UK is "voluntary".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-36808110496610525852008-02-01T11:48:00.000+13:002008-02-01T11:48:00.000+13:00Anonymous..are you trying to say you are stuck in ...Anonymous..are you trying to say you are stuck in some 3rd World hell hole all for the sake of some silly student loan?!?! ..(are you crazy??)<BR/><BR/>Or are you in Dubai, living in an Islamic Police State?<BR/><BR/>As I said earlier, and you may not fully realise this...if you return to NZ all you are required to pay is 10cents in the dollar of your income above a threshold.<BR/><BR/>If you are back here no one will 'chase you' or cause any problems.<BR/><BR/>(It is amazing the number of people who do not realise this)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46166167615592042542008-02-01T11:13:00.000+13:002008-02-01T11:13:00.000+13:00No tax treaties with NZ where I am. No means of ex...No tax treaties with NZ where I am. No means of extradition. Try again.<BR/><BR/>As I say, if that's their final negotiating position -- they won't get a cent. I can't give them what I don't have.<BR/><BR/>Therein lies the problem. <BR/><BR/>Not only is the government lending money to people who can't pay it back. But are trying to bankrupt/arrest or otherwise fuck up people who can pay it back if they are given a NORMAL amount of time to do so.<BR/><BR/>Hence my question. Do these guys actually want the money back or not?<BR/><BR/>Why isn't anyone here seriously contemplating my suggestion that the loan be sold to a private firm?<BR/><BR/>Why? Is the thought of getting your tax money back evil to you? <BR/><BR/>Or is it that you'd rather have the satisfaction of seeing the IRD crush a rogue student debtor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-48575788486168539432008-02-01T10:37:00.000+13:002008-02-01T10:37:00.000+13:00Actually it IS your problem. You RECEIVED the mon...Actually it IS your problem. You RECEIVED the money. They want it back. Eventually, when they decide to get tough, they'll extradite. There are tax treaties with a number of countries around the World. they'll get you eventually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-77193588130309910122008-02-01T10:05:00.000+13:002008-02-01T10:05:00.000+13:00Why did I leave? What can I say, I had an opportun...Why did I leave? What can I say, I had an opportunity that looked good. It fell on it's arse and now I'm rebuilding.<BR/><BR/>Beef with the State?<BR/><BR/>Nope. Just a beef with their negotiating tactics. Threatening to break the debtors legs unless they pay you back at a rate he can't afford doesn't leave him with many options now does it?<BR/><BR/>That was their opening gambit.<BR/><BR/>Better would have been to give me the same terms I'd have gotten back in NZ. I'm sure we'll get to that point, but in the mean time they are wasting their time. Which is fine, because I'm not a NZ taxpayer -- they are wasting your dime not mine.<BR/><BR/>You guys should be the ones with the beef.<BR/><BR/>Then again, if the government sold the debt to some international organization with the ability to operate overseas (at the moment I can only pay the IRD back by setting up a bank account in NZ and eating the wire-transfer costs), the NZ taxpayer - ie you - would be better off...<BR/><BR/>That $7b millstone paid back for a start, and this issue removed as a potential election bribe to 500,000 of the voters in NZ...<BR/><BR/>But hey, Your problem not mine. I'm outta there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-84684033335406008572008-02-01T09:44:00.000+13:002008-02-01T09:44:00.000+13:00If you returned to New Zealand the repayment sched...If you returned to New Zealand the repayment schedule would be in the 20 - 25 year timeframe.<BR/><BR/>To have left the country for a salary of $50,000..(something I consider a pittance)..seems a bit odd.<BR/><BR/>Had you not blindly done as you were told by the State and gone to school, sat up straight, sat exams, gone to University, signed "here, here and here", incurred your debt, gone overseas, told the IRD you were leaving (like a good little boy) so they can keep tabs on you...things would be different.<BR/><BR/>Seems a bit late now to suddenly have a beef with the State.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-18243625763980789042008-02-01T09:36:00.000+13:002008-02-01T09:36:00.000+13:00Which is to say that they are considering their ne...Which is to say that they are considering their negotiating tactics...<BR/><BR/>I fully intend to pay back the loan, but I had a time figure of between 20-25 years in mind... You know, normal loan repayment schemes.<BR/><BR/>I don't expect any response soon. The IRD aren't in any hurry you see. It took them five years to find out I was gone. Turns out they lost the notification I set them when I decided to go OS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-54322924241159457572008-02-01T09:04:00.000+13:002008-02-01T09:04:00.000+13:00How about National sell all out-standing loans alo...How about National sell all out-standing loans along with the Universities, abolish the student loan system and the student allowance and make University tuition fully private.<BR/><BR/>As someone with a student loan, I'd rather deal with a private company seeking to have me repay the loan without being bankrupted as opposed to the IRD whose only negotiating position thus far has been: pay it back in five years or else.<BR/><BR/>Me: Um that's $25,000 p/a or 1/2 of my current salary. <BR/><BR/>Them: We don't care. Do it or the minute you return to NZ we'll get you.<BR/><BR/>Me: Fuck you, I'm not returning to NZ and I'll pay for black market documents to have myself declared dead whilst changing my name by deed poll.<BR/><BR/>Them: Um, you can't do that.<BR/><BR/>Me: Just watch me.<BR/><BR/>Them: Nothing as yet.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, I don't think these morons actually WANT the student debt repaid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com