tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post7807627222567531493..comments2024-03-30T00:09:27.602+13:00Comments on Not PC: A vile litany gains another entry in Libya [updated]Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-18254132052086711402013-04-26T23:17:07.870+12:002013-04-26T23:17:07.870+12:00sehr guter Beitragsehr guter Beitraggutscheine zum ausdruckenhttp://gutscheinezumausdrucken.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-5602891445105691832012-09-24T22:03:21.460+12:002012-09-24T22:03:21.460+12:00*Excellent* article, Peter.
One useful measure t...*Excellent* article, Peter. <br /><br />One useful measure that hasn't been mentioned would be to legally define Islam as an "ideology of hate" - not a "religion". <br />In other words - strip it of all protection afforded to genuine religions. <br /><br />There is more than enough proof around to show that it is in fact a totalitarian, violent, fascist ideology/cult. <br /><br />Proof is not the problem. The problem is finding politicians with BALLS to implement this policy. <br /><br />How would this policy help? Immigration, for a start. Policy #2 - no immigrants with an ideology of hate. <br />That means no Nazis and no Muslims coming here. ( No loss either way there..... ). <br /><br />Ok, sure - Mr Yousuf from Indonesia or Pakistan could *pretend* to be non-Muslim, but the default position should be to accept no immigrants from Islamic countries. <br />( If that means keeping out minorities that are escaping them, that's sad but tough. Our country, our rules. ) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46363606497060089682012-09-18T19:02:58.705+12:002012-09-18T19:02:58.705+12:00Peter it is hard sorry impossible to argue with y...Peter it is hard sorry impossible to argue with you on this, trust me I tried. That said and not with standing our ideological differences I endorse your blog and infact have used it as a reference via a link in a blog of my own. <br /><br />I have to say that some of the left wing appeasment on this issue is a disgrace but not all of us on the left subscrbe to that total tolerance doctrine.<br /><br /> Obama got Bin Laden. <br /><br />Australia got a wake up call I watch and hope that an Austrlasian line in the sand is drawn.H Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154664107900294897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-48619717787214266392012-09-14T12:16:13.027+12:002012-09-14T12:16:13.027+12:00@Someone called Anonymous (yes, another Anonmyite)...@Someone called Anonymous (yes, another Anonmyite) said, "Yes, that Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Egyptian President went and told Iran to stop f**king with Syria."<br /><br />Did you not see why? It's there in the very article to which you link: because the Syrian opposition to which the Shi'ite Iranians are opposed are in the main Sunni Muslim Brotherhod types like Mordi himself.<br /><br />So what's your point?<br /><br />Beyond that, you posit both a false alternative and a lie. If you put a name to your comments, I'll tell you which is which.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-13102788726068885022012-09-14T10:56:10.908+12:002012-09-14T10:56:10.908+12:00Regarding Peter's first comment on this thread...Regarding Peter's first comment on this thread, the Arab Spring is probably going to end in the Winter of Theocracy.<br /><br />I've said since the start of the Syria revolt that between the tyrant and butcher Assad, and the Free Syria Army that is executing prisoners without trial, there is no hope for that country.<br /><br />Just glad I don't live in the Middle East.Mark Hubbardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02541153163041831880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-69135566657587332112012-09-14T10:48:40.995+12:002012-09-14T10:48:40.995+12:00Without wanting to argue over semantics, you haven...Without wanting to argue over semantics, you haven't identified your enemy, you have identified an ideology, which is *LIKE* identifying a tactic as your enemy. <br /><br />You can no more attack an ideology than you can a tactic, so while your premise has merit (ie identify your enemy), your answer is as useless as the previous one (war on terror). <br /><br />You can't just say "we don't like an ideology" and then leave the rest up to the soldiers. If you don't know who you're going to kill/imprison/suppress/re-educate then how the hell do the military know how to implement your wishes.<br /><br />Which is why I asked the original question. twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-82493879957990829742012-09-14T10:48:17.231+12:002012-09-14T10:48:17.231+12:00Yes, it is wrong for Libyans to kill American dipl...Yes, it is wrong for Libyans to kill American diplomats (and Libyan embassy guards) but you haven't adequately explained why the West has a right to occupy the Middle East. If the shoe was on the other foot, and Islamic governments systematically occupied New Zealand, would you fight back?Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756577987173700191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-45400962939563634832012-09-14T10:38:34.377+12:002012-09-14T10:38:34.377+12:00Correction to my comment above:
@twr: An ideology...Correction to my comment above:<br /><br />@twr: An ideology of death, which is the religion of Islam (using their own words) is the enemy. When it is state sponsored (as it is in the case of Iran) the dangers are obvious. A religion is not like a tactic. Religion is simply a primitive form of philosophy. A tactic is simply a way of giving effect to one's ideas.<br /><br />You asked for the first thing the President should do. So I gave my answer. There are many things that follow from that but they are not the first thing the President should do. What they should do next is a question for military people. But don't engage the military people until you have identified your enemy.<br /><br />Julian<br />Juliannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-78924199087966766062012-09-14T10:28:52.299+12:002012-09-14T10:28:52.299+12:00@twr: Islam is not a tactic, it is an ideology, a ...@twr: Islam is not a tactic, it is an ideology, a philosophy of death (using their own words). When it is state sponsored (as it is in the case of Iran) the dangers are obvious.<br /><br />You asked for the first thing the President should do. I gave my answer. There are many things that follow from that but they are not the first thing the President should do. What they should do next is a question for military people. But don't engage the military people until you have identified your enemy.<br /><br />JulianJuliannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-85376230498241707842012-09-14T10:00:26.747+12:002012-09-14T10:00:26.747+12:00@Julian, I'm not sure you've succeeded in ...@Julian, I'm not sure you've succeeded in naming your enemy, as all you've named is a religion, which is like naming a tactic. <br /><br />You can't fight a religion, you have to fight specific people presumably. And those people need to be the dangerous ones, not just people who believe something silly. <br /><br />And you need to know what to do to fight them. twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-34398340197689059982012-09-14T09:08:37.054+12:002012-09-14T09:08:37.054+12:00@twr: The first thing the President of the United ...@twr: The first thing the President of the United States should do (and not just a libertarian president), is to identify and name the enemy. They have not done this. The enemy is not terrorism (a tactic) or even extremists (you may be extreme in your desire to eat healthy food or use correct grammar, without killing people). <br />The enemy is Islam and specifically state-sponsored Islam. The United States recognised this in WWII when Japan and the religion of Shinto threatened the world. They named their enemy and a few years later the enemy was defeated. <br /><br />JulianJuliannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-65825678903817678142012-09-14T08:29:19.052+12:002012-09-14T08:29:19.052+12:00So if you were made the first libertarian Presiden...So if you were made the first libertarian President of the US tomorrow, what *exactly* would you do to remove the Arab/Islamist threat? You yourself are adamant that you can't group everyone by their race or location or genes and assume they are all the same, so how can you stop the crazy muslims without catastrophically impinging on the rights and liberties of the others. <br /><br />They are all individuals after all. twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-88417653764828000052012-09-14T08:15:56.092+12:002012-09-14T08:15:56.092+12:00The big problem with Islamism is that it is not an...The big problem with Islamism is that it is not an actual country with a conventional military force and so the strategies of normal warfare don't apply. It's a difficult one and I don't have the solution, but killing 40 million Iranian civilians is one of the most extreme ideas I have heard promulgated. Targeted strikes, maybe, but genocide? I don't think so. <br /><br />Another issue is that in the Arab world and possibly South Asia but not so much in Indonesia the people don't seem to be able to grasp the idea of democracy at all. Many of these countries are ruled by dictatorial arseholes, but when they are overthrown what takes their place is Islamism. Even the fucking murderous Japs got the idea of democracy. <br /><br />One area where I do have a solution though, is in the mindset of the democratic people and their military. If you are going to invade a country then FFS do it properly. It's no use poncing about with 'aid' and 'reconstruction' and announcing in advance when you plan to leave while your enemy carries on around you almost unaffected, as we are doing in Afghanistan. We should either be prepared to subjugate and dominated a country entirely and occupy them indefinitely (like Japan) until the job is done - or we should never be there in the first place. <br /><br /><br />Yes, we are at war, and so far we are not winning. I wonder how the Chinese will get on when they become the world's dominant superpower? I think their approach might be very different. <br /><br />Dave MannAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-6333421033957145642012-09-13T23:18:04.639+12:002012-09-13T23:18:04.639+12:00Well there are two views here:
Leftist liberalism...Well there are two views here:<br /><br />Leftist liberalism: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9509248/Morsi-tells-Iran-that-Syrias-Assad-must-go.html<br /><br />Yes, that Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Egyptian President went and told Iraq to stop f**king with Syria.<br /><br /><br />Or Randian, I guess. Let's face it, the only sure way to end Iran's nuclear programme, once and for all, is to wipe the country out. Once Ohio broadside should do it - at zero cost to the deficit (the nukes are due to be withdrawn anyway) and zero cost to troops. Kill say 20-40 at least of 80 million Iranians. Bomb them back to the stone age.<br /><br />Because anything less, anything at all less, will have whoever is left in Iran writing a very big cheques to Pakistan and North Korea and getting nukes and missiles in return. And there's absolutely nothing the US or anyone else could do to stop them.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-83074640852328865482012-09-13T17:17:36.489+12:002012-09-13T17:17:36.489+12:00@J: Have you not noticed what they've replaced...@J: Have you not noticed what they've replaced those overbearing states, with, J.?<br /><br />A Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship in Egypt, much the same in Syria and Lybia--and more of the same in Lebanon and the Palestinian Authority...I see no advance anywhere there for liberty. Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-27151059452742744662012-09-13T16:41:19.977+12:002012-09-13T16:41:19.977+12:00ok, but...
Islam isn't taking half of what I ...ok, but...<br /><br />Islam isn't taking half of what I earn with threats of kidnapping.<br /><br />Please don't suggest more such mugging to fund, justify and glorify monopoly security apparatus that back up those threats.<br /><br />Furthermore...<br /><br />Liberty took massive strides across the Islamic world recently, especially with people learning that overbearing states can be challenged. Yay for them!J Cuttancenoreply@blogger.com