tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post7086930572354513194..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: Saving Syrian Refugees Won't Hurt the EconomyPeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-31494859461039648152015-11-06T17:40:15.841+13:002015-11-06T17:40:15.841+13:00Any time someone cites Lebanon, a 3rd world Islami...Any time someone cites Lebanon, a 3rd world Islamic shithole, as a successful example; you know they're deluded as hell. <br /><br />Hypothetically PC, if there were irrefutable evidence that mass Islamic immigration is a disaster that should be avoided <br /> would you admit it?Barrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-2866240529425885602015-11-06T11:51:26.771+13:002015-11-06T11:51:26.771+13:00Libertarians and Communists aligned:
http://www.l...Libertarians and Communists aligned:<br /><br />http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de3_1445908154Richard Wiighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014802233741921087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-35961402387715665532015-11-06T11:41:06.320+13:002015-11-06T11:41:06.320+13:00Hillary supporters:
https://youtu.be/oKosd0xJadEHillary supporters:<br /><br />https://youtu.be/oKosd0xJadERichard Wiighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014802233741921087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-72113783312755371322015-11-06T11:31:58.291+13:002015-11-06T11:31:58.291+13:00The videos that Barry linked to are just the tip o...The videos that Barry linked to are just the tip of the iceberg, which I'm surprised you are not aware of, Peter.<br /><br />http://www.thereligionofpeace.com<br /><br />Daniel Pipes cannot be trusted. Before you jump to hearing what you want to hear you should check all sides. An example of how untrustworthy Mr. Pipes is:<br /><br />http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/failed-analysis-offered-as-remedy-to-failed-ad, <br /><br />You can argue about whether or not No Go Zones exist, and raise statistics such as an increased GDP to support a position, but none of that addresses the issue of liberty. GDP growth is no indicator of liberty, or of social stability, or of anything important at all. Is Lebanon more free or less free since forcing out Christians and becoming increasingly Islamised? A freedom lover shouldn't give too much of a stuff about GDP, but care everything about whether or not he is free to pursue his values.<br /><br />The German government is currently talking about introducing compulsory service for youth once they leave school. A year either in the military, or helping migrants. They are going further into debt to support the influx, and there is, quite literally, nowhere to put them all. There have been many riots, burning down of refugee centres, and tensions are rising. On top of that, people are still flooding in. However, none of the above really matters. What matters can be comprehended with a simple question. You know how difficult it is to convince your fellow western-minded person that unadulterated liberty is worth valuing. Since that is the path you've chosen (convincing everyone around you) to reach your goal of a free society how is your task of doing that going to be easier when you flood the place with people raised and steeped in Islam, a religion that instills the antithesis of freedom loving? Will your task become easier, or increasingly difficult?<br /><br />Also, there is a war raging. Islamic State explicitly stated they would flood Europe with refugees. Devout muslims in Libya have just made this threat too. Why, during a war, do you advocate opening the gates to our enemies to just come flooding in?Richard Wiighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014802233741921087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-23272430411812888722015-11-06T10:05:01.976+13:002015-11-06T10:05:01.976+13:00Barry: If your evidence is so overwhelming, then w...Barry: If your evidence is so overwhelming, then why don't you post it? Two 2-minute Youtube vidoes and Nigel Farage talking is not evidence. Just so you know.<br />And talking about "no-go zones" especially is neither evidence, nor accurate--<a href="http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2015/10/quote-of-day-on-europes-alleged-no-go.html" rel="nofollow">as confirmed by the fellow who first coined the term.</a><br /><br />For clarification, evidence looks like this: Someone makes the claim, for example, that an influx of refugees will neither dramatically strain government budgets nor take jobs from local citizens. They then cite current case studies that largely alleviate those concerns, with links to the evidence backing up the case studies, and then write sentences like this: "Take Lebanon, for example. Since 2011, the country has taken in more than a million refugees. The World Bank found their economy has continued to grow, despite the influx. In 2013, real GDP increased 0.9 percent. In 2014, it increased 2.0 percent."<br /><br />If they went on to write whole paragraphs in the same vein, they might, you know, end up looking like the post above.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-58999919939166051432015-11-05T15:43:33.181+13:002015-11-05T15:43:33.181+13:00You do realise Peter, that the Islamists you are d...You do realise Peter, that the Islamists you are defending would advocate your execution as an infidel?<br /><br />The links in the post you are referring to are just articles written by people with the same opinion as you. So don't really count as evidence. However there is plenty of contrary evidence:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl16QDk2sig<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwh6Hq0tHRA<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/14/farage-muslim-ghettoes-in-europe-are-sharia-run-no-go-zones-for-police/<br /><br />The overwhelming evidence of Islamic ghetto problems in Europe is hardly a secret. So what's your excuse for ignoring this? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Barrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-57014346445690529622015-11-05T11:06:00.646+13:002015-11-05T11:06:00.646+13:00You've just made an assertion, Barry, so you&#...You've just made an assertion, Barry, so you'll need evidence to back that up.<br /><br />You know, the sort of thing offered in the figures quoted in the post above, with its links to the data on which the figures are based. That sort of thing.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-53600102678329060742015-11-05T10:21:55.364+13:002015-11-05T10:21:55.364+13:00You've got it backwards Peter. All the countri...You've got it backwards Peter. All the countries in Europe with Islamic populations have social problems in direct proportion. It's your ideological argument that is assumed to be self-evident, in spite of what has actually played out in reality.Barrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-63249687244363184862015-11-04T22:59:20.754+13:002015-11-04T22:59:20.754+13:00Richard, you keep asserting things as if they are ...Richard, you keep asserting things as if they are self-evident (nothing good, invaders, demise of Europe). They are not self-evident. <br />You do need to supply an actual argument. Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-74106026958363767052015-11-04T22:31:51.782+13:002015-11-04T22:31:51.782+13:00So long as they leave Islam behind them, it's ...So long as they leave Islam behind them, it's all good. Europe isn't heading towards anything good from the inundation of muslim invaders. Achieve a free society first and then open the doors. Or, if prior to having achieved a free society, make sure that only liberty lovers can enter. We are watching the demise of Europe, while libertarians keep pushing political theory over the defence of actual values.Richard Wiighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014802233741921087noreply@blogger.com