tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post6887793830174385255..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: “Turning back to God,” through art [update 2]Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-26174874821781293982017-01-31T05:08:12.095+13:002017-01-31T05:08:12.095+13:00And to think Jesus pushed over the books of the Sa...And to think Jesus pushed over the books of the Sanhedrin and said "Love your neighbor as yourself and love God with all your heart" Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12239791522344795823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-56753789346121353112010-11-29T07:46:24.203+13:002010-11-29T07:46:24.203+13:00there are bad people in both those who worship GOD...there are bad people in both those who worship GOD/GODS and atheists.What matters is how we behave with our believe.....aliboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-66235250640506272882010-09-07T04:53:20.541+12:002010-09-07T04:53:20.541+12:00Why is Hitler being placed with atheist? Not only ...Why is Hitler being placed with atheist? Not only did he do what he did in the name of Christ (wrongfully), but he also had the support of many churches. Among his sayings are:<br />"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."<br />"What we have to fight for is …. the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfil the mission assigned to it by the Creator."<br />"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter."<br />"The national Government sees in both Christian denominations [Catholic and Protestant] the most important factor for the maintenance of our society."<br />"The [Nazi] party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession."<br />"We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-23602045375488729732010-09-03T16:41:51.381+12:002010-09-03T16:41:51.381+12:00Heh! Just heard on The Rock...."If we are all...Heh! Just heard on The Rock...."If we are all Gods children why is Jesus so special?"<br /><br /><br />mmmmmmmmmmmmm........Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-51769422833062918212010-09-03T09:19:03.062+12:002010-09-03T09:19:03.062+12:00Great, new proof in:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/...Great, new proof in:<br />http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/4090345/God-did-not-create-the-universe-says-Hawking<br /><br />Glad that's all cleared up now and everyone can move on.PaulBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-10409468165130376772010-09-02T17:10:51.555+12:002010-09-02T17:10:51.555+12:00I have a quibble with Paul Hsieh's article.
&...I have a quibble with Paul Hsieh's article.<br /><br />"There's still a general "ornery streak" alive and well amongst many Americans that would reject any such an attempt to subjugate us to Sharia law."<br /><br />He seems to think that ornery Americans would reject a Islamic dictatorship and accept a Christian one - because it has an 'American flavor.'<br /><br />I'm sorry but I don't buy that. <br /><br />This is a country of 300 million and 600 million opinions and 900 million guns. <br /><br />There are more flavors of Baptists here then there are disciples. There are Christian factions within factions. And that just describes those who even bother with church. A large number do not even though they believe in God. <br /><br />Yes, the religiosity is palpable in the USA and the Mid West especially. But there is also a healthy respect for thy neighbor. Who knows, he might have a bigger gun than you do. <br /><br />I'm sorry, but this foreboding certain objectivists have of an imminent Christian theocracy is silly. Especially so seeing as it is the Socialists (whom up until recently were declared dead by certain objectivists) who are in the act of imposing tyranny and ruin upon us this very minute!<br /><br />Aren't there already enough philosophical missiles within reach without having to grasp at one so far fetched?Robert Winefieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-52428802435672966722010-09-02T16:01:09.137+12:002010-09-02T16:01:09.137+12:00twr, how could a small demonstration of the faith ...twr, how could a small demonstration of the faith of atheists in "facts" and "citations" say anything about the existence of God?<br /><br />Just contrast this with PC wrote: "blind acceptance of a certain ideational content, acceptance induced by feeling in the absence of evidence or proof" and the supposed "When one holds reason as the standard by which knowledge is acquired and held".<br /><br />Yeah right.Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-91676377017263100132010-09-02T15:48:55.911+12:002010-09-02T15:48:55.911+12:00And after two minutes further looking I found this...And after two minutes further looking I found this: <br /><br /><i>"The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession."<br /> -Spoken by Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis</i><br /><br />So it wasn't <i>written</i> by him, and your $100 is safe. Whoop de do, must mean you're right and god does exist after all. That sounds about right for your level of logic.twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-68418971190793365852010-09-02T15:44:12.563+12:002010-09-02T15:44:12.563+12:00a: You only offered it to one person, and b: it...a: You only offered it to one person, and b: it's a pretty widely referenced quote judging by a quick google.twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-38600005776297966842010-09-02T15:16:09.751+12:002010-09-02T15:16:09.751+12:00It's quiet here... Everyone busy trying to ear...It's quiet here... Everyone busy trying to earn the $100?Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46214510055940191622010-09-02T14:11:28.220+12:002010-09-02T14:11:28.220+12:00Paul, I think I can make my point best by offering...Paul, I think I can make my point best by offering you $100 when you can source "The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession." to something actually written by Lincoln. Page number and year of printing please.Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-89204217499756136592010-09-02T14:02:46.360+12:002010-09-02T14:02:46.360+12:00PC: It’s always strikes me as bizarre that Christi...PC: <i>It’s always strikes me as bizarre that Christians can make themselves feel better</i><br /><br />I obviously hit a nerve. I offered no defence for the inquisition as there is none.<br /><br />I just offered a simple comparison. Since we know that believers (from whatever religion) are evil, mad and psychopathic, let's turn to those who do not believe. How do they do?Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-49098072669156621112010-09-02T14:00:24.976+12:002010-09-02T14:00:24.976+12:00J S Mill wuz kuul: Do not see christians committin...J S Mill wuz kuul: <i>Do not see christians committing these sort of crimes nowadays.</i><br /><br />How many babies are killed in the womb every year Mr Mill?<br /><br />World-wide, would that be more than even the Catholic Church managed during the 1400 years of its existence (started with Pope Gregory I)?Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-47095601013117841692010-09-02T13:56:19.523+12:002010-09-02T13:56:19.523+12:00Paul: National Socialism which used religion to he...Paul: <i>National Socialism which used religion to help administer its doctrine (example: religious schools were encouraged and supported by the state)</i><br /><br />Just one example of the plethora of interesting "facts".<br /><br />The only thing I can ask Paul is: really?<br /><br />And secondly, I suppose you went to a public school.Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-77701200366543705382010-09-02T13:38:51.000+12:002010-09-02T13:38:51.000+12:00Do not see christians committing these sort of cri...Do not see christians committing these sort of crimes nowadays.<br />In the west we have pretty much got them under control.<br />What we don't need is another bunch of barbaric nutters getting any sort of toe-hold. You know the ones, they stone and mutilate people etc. Or the ones that think whales are family members.J S Mill wuz kuulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-65210687375000178072010-09-02T12:58:01.414+12:002010-09-02T12:58:01.414+12:00@James: I obviously keep my murderous fantasies ca...@James: I obviously keep my murderous fantasies carefully hidden. Lucky Tom's onto them.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-31625292177890524952010-09-02T12:47:59.991+12:002010-09-02T12:47:59.991+12:00Tom misses the point (unlike many victims of the I...Tom misses the point (unlike many victims of the Inquisition in their tender bits0<br /><br />Those who believe absurdities commit atrocities...quite how PC...who belives in freedom,human rightsfree minds and free trade between peaceful people can be compared to mass murdering control freaks, both religious and not is hard to fathom...Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-39890893842820095682010-09-02T12:22:16.992+12:002010-09-02T12:22:16.992+12:00'PC's rabid 'rational' myopia.'...'PC's rabid 'rational' myopia.'<br /><br />Hilarious! As opposed to what, exactly?<br />Really am laughing out loud.<br /><br />Funniest thing I have read today.Shane Pleasancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144367923437327037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-8087123578871186632010-09-02T11:50:43.399+12:002010-09-02T11:50:43.399+12:00With God worship there is a chance it might be kep...<i>With God worship there is a chance it might be kept amongst private individuals with State worship you are part of the collective whether you like it or not.</i><br /><br />Yet...although as a rule its not usually the communists and fascists bothering me of a Sunday morn to tell me about "our" Lord and savior.<br /><br />What really pisses many of we unbelivers off is this constant forced and assumed inclusion by the belivers in THEIR fantasy and how THEIR God is also OUR God too....its that smothering,arrogant assumption that grates our goolies (and the real fear that if they ever did regain their former power "grating our goolies" may literally on their agenda!) :-0<br /><br />If they would just piss off and keep themselves to themselves things would be so much better for all....but alas the control freakery is too strong for some to resist it seems..Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-91156341364086904472010-09-02T09:32:26.319+12:002010-09-02T09:32:26.319+12:00AH’s core belief was survival of the fittest which...AH’s core belief was survival of the fittest which is Darwinism. Anti-Semitism was only part of this doctrine. <br /><br />With God worship there is a chance it might be kept amongst private individuals with State worship you are part of the collective whether you like it or not.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-16391073434472644102010-09-02T08:53:03.604+12:002010-09-02T08:53:03.604+12:00I think the post completely misses the big picture...I think the post completely misses the big picture (again), high death tolls tend to result when a power base is threatened. It doesn't really matter if the power base is the Catholic Church or the Communist Party. Medieval power bases were religious, where as modern power bases tend to be ideological in nature, but it really makes no difference. Zealotry of any form is dangerous, it does not matter what banner it masquerades under, be it Glenn Beck's idiotic bible thumping or PC's rabid 'rational' myopia.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-36116594832058578962010-09-02T08:51:06.117+12:002010-09-02T08:51:06.117+12:00You plonker Berend – the founding fathers and a wh...You plonker Berend – the founding fathers and a whole host of American Pressies were all atheists (deists at best)and hated organised religion in particular.<br /><br />The majority of those behind organising the ‘Final Solution’ were Christians - mostly Catholics, including Hitler who founded his warped anti-Semitic doctrine from his Christian education. <br /><br />Stop re-writing history to suit you own dogma. <br /><br />“Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity” (Thomas Jefferson)<br /><br />"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." (Washington)<br /><br />“The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession." (Lincoln)<br /><br />"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." (Madison) <br /><br />“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" (Adams)<br /><br />If ever there was a country founded on secular ideals and a hatred of organised religion it is the United States and not Germany under National Socialism which used religion to help administer its doctrine (example: religious schools were encouraged and supported by the state) <br /><br />Like Beck Hitler used god when it was expedient.<br /><br />Here's what that so called-atheist had to say in his manifesto Mein Kampf: <br /><br />“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." <br /><br />All German armed forces in WW2 made this oath before they marched-off to war:<br /><br />"I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Fuhrer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath" <br /><br />This is the same god Hitler, Beck, Bin Laden,Waco Cult, The Pope <br />all worship to. <br /><br />Stop watching Fox and go to the library once and a while.<br /><br />See ya.<br /><br />Paul.Canterbury Atheistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09900223059660267657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-69145762179374784972010-09-02T08:50:07.037+12:002010-09-02T08:50:07.037+12:00It's interesting how the apologists for mass m...It's interesting how the apologists for mass murder in the name of religion always rattle off a list of names of supposed atheists who also murdered people, while knowing full well that they did not do so in the name of atheism. <br /><br />The distinction is of no consequence to them, as they are used to the myriad of lies and ignorance of the bleeding obvious required to sustain their beliefs.twrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10312229399327994398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-64306985664883003372010-09-02T08:38:20.833+12:002010-09-02T08:38:20.833+12:00Religion is inherently immoral because it encourag...Religion is inherently immoral because it encourages individuals to abrogate moral responsibility in favour of the judgement of a mythical being. And yes, Hitler was a Catholic who used historical (and imagined) religious grievances as one of the justifications for the Holocaust. As for Stalin and Mao, well, I'm sure PC isn't saying religion has a monopoly on genocide just a propensity for it.Kiwiwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507667837257013301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-85758440869479298312010-09-02T08:04:50.720+12:002010-09-02T08:04:50.720+12:00Yeah, well told you so.
Judge HoldenYeah, well told you so.<br /><br />Judge HoldenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com