tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post5970907392532151929..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: Denying non-taxpayers the right to votePeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-82159295254354071772007-04-26T14:02:00.000+12:002007-04-26T14:02:00.000+12:00See we can argue and debate all sorts of things bu...See we can argue and debate all sorts of things but if you don't belive that everyone has an inalienable right to vote reguardless of thier income or the amount of tax they pay or take in then we can't really have a conversation.<BR/><BR/>You see you can disagree on what the government does and you have recourse, you can vote them out<BR/><BR/>When you start taking away the right to vote you are no better than a dictator. And dictators can't be reasoned with.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332348774219250967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-45410512000024306122007-04-25T09:10:00.000+12:002007-04-25T09:10:00.000+12:00Until the 1980s non-ratepayers could NOT vote in l...Until the 1980s non-ratepayers could NOT vote in local body elections.<BR/><BR/>Labour overturned this I believe.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-65000835801456737772007-04-25T01:34:00.000+12:002007-04-25T01:34:00.000+12:00TRSNow you are making sense.The ratepayer one is i...TRS<BR/><BR/>Now you are making sense.<BR/><BR/>The ratepayer one is interesting. Tell me again why non-ratepayers should get a vote?<BR/><BR/>How disenfranchising is it to give people the right to vote themselves an income at the expense of others?<BR/><BR/>Who are the victims here?Cactus Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10136331420768264938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-4794988712180088372007-04-24T16:20:00.000+12:002007-04-24T16:20:00.000+12:00So the police, military and our politicians should...So the police, military and our politicians should also be barred from voting?<BR/><BR/>And non rate paying residents should be bared from voting in local elections as well?<BR/><BR/>Oh and I guess we should also rule out beneficiaries as well.<BR/><BR/>Oh yes nurses, doctors and teachers in the public sector should go as well.<BR/><BR/>Academics and students should be off the roll as well. <BR/><BR/>Disenfranchising people is a dangerous road that I would have though a Libertarian would be loath to go down..Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332348774219250967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-58890205029714579612007-04-24T16:04:00.000+12:002007-04-24T16:04:00.000+12:00TRS: Apology accepted on George's behalf. :-)TRS: Apology accepted on George's behalf. :-)Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-24731446661506056812007-04-24T16:03:00.000+12:002007-04-24T16:03:00.000+12:00Two sentences, TRS, and two errors."I notice [Reis...Two sentences, TRS, and two errors.<BR/><BR/><I>"I notice [Reisman] is not advocating that he also lose his right to vote even though he draws a handsom stipend from the public purse."</I><BR/><BR/>In fact Reisman draws no stipend from the public purse. Error number one.<BR/><BR/><I>"Denying people the right to vote based on their assets (liquid or capital) is medieval stuff."</I><BR/><BR/>In fact their 'right' to vote is denied on the basis of their income source: the principle is that they should not be allowed to vote themselves rich. Pretty enlightened I would call that.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-64482100286586767372007-04-24T16:00:00.000+12:002007-04-24T16:00:00.000+12:00appolgies. He is not a US congressman (I blame the...appolgies. He is not a US congressman (I blame the blog author for making it look like that :P)<BR/><BR/>still as an achedemic I am sure he has had his fair share of tax payer moneyThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332348774219250967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-83030479396459966782007-04-24T15:46:00.000+12:002007-04-24T15:46:00.000+12:00I notice he is not advocating that he also lose hi...I notice he is not advocating that he also lose his right to vote even though he draws a handsom stipend from the public purse.<BR/><BR/>also dening people the right to vote based on their assets (liquid or capital) is medevial stuff.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332348774219250967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-40204117395655501202007-04-24T09:31:00.000+12:002007-04-24T09:31:00.000+12:00Cactus, in the NZ situation it would be better to ...Cactus, in the NZ situation it would be better to say that those who pay more tax then they receive in government benefits should have the vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-52178061584834621392007-04-23T23:40:00.000+12:002007-04-23T23:40:00.000+12:00I have always wondered why people who don't pay ta...I have always wondered why people who don't pay tax get a vote.<BR/><BR/>When you see it from the perspective that what right should people have to vote themselves an income off others, it makes sense not to allow those who don't pay tax to vote.Cactus Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10136331420768264938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-77114444871278973872007-04-23T13:22:00.000+12:002007-04-23T13:22:00.000+12:00What's Helengrad? New Zealand? Are you advocating ...What's Helengrad? New Zealand? Are you advocating that people in NZ shouldn't be allowed to vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com