tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post5546206788184217393..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: DOWN TO THE DOCTOR’S: Meths, death & forgiving a dead BeatlePeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-81727451117240663492010-09-07T21:49:11.744+12:002010-09-07T21:49:11.744+12:00This is an example of where the progressive Utopia...This is an example of where the progressive Utopian thinking of Libertarians display their naivete about the range and perversity of human desires that they propose to unleash...doctor negligencehttp://www.medicalnegligenceie.com/doctor-negligence/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-56393059126703392902010-04-14T16:53:54.801+12:002010-04-14T16:53:54.801+12:00Richard said...
In my 15 years working at an alcoh...Richard said...<br /><i>In my 15 years working at an alcohol and drug clinic, I have yet to meet anyone who "needs" pure alcohol. </i><br /><br />During my varsity days, I used to take the remaining <i>ethanol</i> that every Chemistry student was provided with for use in the lab after every lab-session and mixed it with fanta and always had a good drink with my mates at Albert park band-house.<br /><br />Every Friday afternoon, when my lectures finished at 2pm, I would go to Albert Park band-house and waited there till my Tongan mates from the <i> Arts Faculty</i> turn up with the fanta bottles. We always had ethanol party at Albert Park before we went up to Shadows bar to just buy a beer or two, because there was no need for more drinks since we were already wasted, but just hang out at Shadows to listen to music.<br /><br />The Chemistry lab technician had always requested that I should have used the provided ethanol with care such as not to waste too much of it in my experiments, because I was the only one in my lab-stream, he noted that he always had to refill the 1 litre bottle in my locker with ethanol which was always empty. The lab technician didn't know that I had always been very careful on not wasting too much ethanol in the lab, because I wanted some left-over from the 1 litre ethanol bottle we were provided with after each lab session, so that I could take to Albert Park.<br /><br />So, when someone is poor they will go looking for something stronger such as pure alcohol, either ethanol or the dangerous meth.Falafulu Fisinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-73933646294749772652010-04-14T16:00:14.049+12:002010-04-14T16:00:14.049+12:00Ok 'need' is not correct, but the individu...Ok 'need' is not correct, but the individual seems to treat it as a need. I acknowledge that you don't think you've got all the answers, but in this case what would 'cheaper, less harmful alternatives' give access to? Surely you have something in mind like I don't know, pharmaceutical companies making new products?StephenRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08717556420960471541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-59310576391177987212010-04-14T15:14:31.370+12:002010-04-14T15:14:31.370+12:00@Stephen - In my 15 years working at an alcohol an...@Stephen - In my 15 years working at an alcohol and drug clinic, I have yet to meet anyone who "needs" pure alcohol. <br /><br />I don't pretend I can solve the problems of people who overindulge in substance use. That is for the person concerned to solve for themselves.<br /><br />But I don't think people should be held financially responsible for lifestyle choices made by other people, over which they have little or no control.<br /><br />@Anon - I'm not proposing to build a Utopia, a perfect society. That is the stuff of control freaks. I'm proposing a hands-off approach. <br /><br />The drunkenness, drugs, unemployment, etc., that you lament is happening in a society where individual freedom is being squashed, not one in which liberty is flowering. <br /><br />I think you've lost the plot a bit. Libertarians propose individual restraint as the means to a civilised society. <br /><br />What libertarians propose is that adults be allowed to act in furtherance of their own happiness with minimal interference from the government. There should however be laws to protect and compensate innocent people who come to harm through the deliberate or careless actions of others. <br /><br />Libertarians do not propose anarchy. Anarchy is not freedom; in fact it's total war, as there is no protection of individual rights (which is the proper function of government).Richard McGrathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-7830730919416655942010-04-14T11:49:29.310+12:002010-04-14T11:49:29.310+12:00" . . . as long as they remain financially an..." . . . as long as they remain financially and legally responsible for their actions before and afterward?"<br /><br /><br />This is an example of where the progressive Utopian thinking of Libertarians display their naivete about the range and perversity of human desires that they propose to unleash. <br /><br />They can imagine nothing more threatening than a bit of Sunday-afternoon sadomasochism, followed by some recreational drug use and work on Monday - they assume that people will gravitate towards essentially bourgeois lives.<br /><br />They forget that for much of the population, preaching maximum freedom merely results in drunkenness, drugs, failure to hold a job, and pregnancy out of wedlock. Society is dependent upon inculcated self-restraint if it is not to slide into barbarism, and libertarians attack this self-restraint. Ironically, this often results in internal restraints being replaced by the external restraints of police and prison, resulting in less freedom, not more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-16671730050141790822010-04-14T10:10:36.874+12:002010-04-14T10:10:36.874+12:00People would not turn to crap such as meths if it ...<i>People would not turn to crap such as meths if it were cheaper to purchase less harmful alternatives.</i><br /><br />What would your more ideal situation provide in terms of options for an alcohol addict who needs a 100% alcohol concoction like meths to get a buzz?StephenRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08717556420960471541noreply@blogger.com