tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post3807390699615253026..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: LIBERTARIAN SUS: Mumbai, Muslims & MePeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-12617545179737747782008-12-14T09:41:00.000+13:002008-12-14T09:41:00.000+13:00Oddly enough, my partner and I lived just off the ...Oddly enough, my partner and I lived just off the Railton Rd in Brixton for nearly three years in the early nineties, and used to walk Coldharbour Lane most days.<BR/><BR/>I just asked her if she was ever hassled in the manner Sus described.<BR/><BR/>Answer: "No."<BR/><BR/>Fact is, the problem is not cities' shitholes; the problem is the world's arseholes - and those who defend them.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-50186801390273625902008-12-14T08:06:00.000+13:002008-12-14T08:06:00.000+13:00You got hassle from Muslims on the Edgware Rd. Big...You got hassle from Muslims on the Edgware Rd. Big fucking deal. If you walked down Coldharbour lane in Brixton you'd have heard the same kind of comments from Blacks. Pick a street in a shithole area in any city in the world and you'll have the same experience.<BR/><BR/>Not too long ago in London it was 'oh, we know not all Irish are terrorists..it's just that all the terrorists are Irish'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-71912827820247117812008-12-03T20:38:00.000+13:002008-12-03T20:38:00.000+13:00HORansome,Tell me, what sort of environment does y...HORansome,<BR/><BR/>Tell me, what sort of environment does your sort of moral equivalency produce? The inability to recognise and condemn profound evil is an evil in itself and urgently needs to be stamped out. There is a clock ticking you know. The jihadists are aiming for massive civilian casualties. If we don't stop them it is only a matter of time before they go nuclear or biological.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-61886494970409054222008-12-03T12:26:00.000+13:002008-12-03T12:26:00.000+13:00The above comment is mine.The above comment is mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-12869823168803500452008-12-03T12:24:00.000+13:002008-12-03T12:24:00.000+13:00You're quite right, Horace. I should have added "...You're quite right, Horace. I should have added "or sympathisers".<BR/><BR/>Call me old-fashioned - or Wendyl Nissen - Possum, but based on the rest of the article, I would have thought that was obvious?<BR/><BR/>And as for creating a climate that allows terrorism to flourish, I'd say that western apologists are doing a pretty good job of that themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-37499832644486894432008-12-03T10:50:00.000+13:002008-12-03T10:50:00.000+13:00This really is facile:``But the cold, hard truth i...This really is facile:<BR/><BR/>``But the cold, hard truth is that while not all Muslims are terrorists – all terrorists right now would appear to be Muslim.''<BR/><BR/>Given that the standard definition of `terrorist' is:<BR/><BR/>``Any one who attempts to further his views by a system of coercive intimidation'' (OED)<BR/><BR/>it would appear that not all terrorists right now would appear to be Muslims at all. Some of them are also Westerners in Muslim nations.<BR/><BR/>Blanket statements like that given by Susan the Libertarian are not helpful (to use a much maligned and, admittedly, over-used phrase, they create the climate of fear that allows terrorists to flourish) and we should be careful to make sure we do not endorse them.Matthew R. X. Dentithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12499867223966169985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-36653064083963463992008-12-03T07:23:00.000+13:002008-12-03T07:23:00.000+13:00Shilpa is a fine actress, although I am more parti...Shilpa is a fine actress, although I am more partial to Bollywood icon Amitabh Bachchan and Shahrukh Khan, the former blogged quite heavily on the attacks on Mumbai.Just my opinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16614554113040355062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-4304593404506811822008-12-02T23:51:00.000+13:002008-12-02T23:51:00.000+13:00Comments like yours are the reason these terrorist...<I>Comments like yours are the reason these terrorists act without fear.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually they kill because everyone who is not muslim is an infidel. Whether you are a fawning, anti-USA, liberal lefty hollywood flunky who claims to to 'understand' Islam or you are a straight shooting Bollywood actor or an inflammatory troll on a blog they want to kill you all the same. They make no distinctions.Madeleinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377823497040412237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-86526813845078805012008-12-02T17:59:00.000+13:002008-12-02T17:59:00.000+13:00Frankee Lee,Have you read about two year old Moshe...Frankee Lee,<BR/><BR/>Have you read about two year old <A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1090887/Pictured-Tears-year-old-boy-trapped-Mumbai-Jewish-centre-parents-murdered.html?ITO=1490" REL="nofollow">Moshe Holtzberg</A>?<BR/><BR/>Do you know how his parents and other Jews at the Chabad House in Mumbai <A HREF="http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/30mumterror-doctors-shocked-at-hostagess-torture.htm" REL="nofollow">actually died</A>.<BR/><BR/>The only reason these people where targeted was being Jewish. Do you think the dogs that carried out the attacks wouldn't have any hesitation torturing and slaughtering every Israeli if they could get the chance? Yet you accuse us of wanting to fire up the gas chambers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-80112765229736327322008-12-02T17:10:00.000+13:002008-12-02T17:10:00.000+13:00Oh grow up Frankie Lee.Comments like yours are the...Oh grow up Frankie Lee.<BR/><BR/>Comments like yours are the reason these terrorists act without fear.<BR/><BR/>You try to guilt anyone out who does not buy into the bullshit that they really are good and it is the dirty captalists or Americans fault they do what they do.<BR/><BR/>They hate us. We have nothing they want so we cant negotitate with them.<BR/><BR/>I am talking about extremists only not the every day muslim.<BR/><BR/>And before you bring up the ovens again my mother lost most of her extended family in those ovens. So be careful.Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711087393689238053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-21806123571019508352008-12-02T16:46:00.000+13:002008-12-02T16:46:00.000+13:00Huh? Their film industry is more like Hollywood of...Huh? Their film industry is more like Hollywood of the 40s than the post-60s? I predict they will soon dominate American screens with the first anti-jihad film that doesn't drool over or excuse terrorist attacks. It will be the first film to gross a billion dollars in its opening release.Jeffrey Perrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11841019772535869442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-65254812700464877042008-12-02T14:50:00.000+13:002008-12-02T14:50:00.000+13:00OK Dennis, glad you've cleared that up for us.Time...OK Dennis, glad you've cleared that up for us.<BR/><BR/>Time to fire up the ovens then, eh? Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-37276792974757661982008-12-02T14:09:00.000+13:002008-12-02T14:09:00.000+13:00Lucy: "Why arent the 'lovely muslims' up in arms a...Lucy: "Why arent the 'lovely muslims' up in arms about these terror attacks? I have waited and waited in vain for them to become vocal and tell their bretheren that this is not OK. That Islam is a 'peaceful' religon and they are digusted by these attacks."<BR/><BR/>Because the ones carrying out the attacks are actually following Islam correctly. It isn't a 'peaceful' religion. Calling Islam 'peaceful' is "lying to infidels", a practice which I understand is specifically encouraged in the Quran!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-51471932140708820212008-12-02T11:55:00.000+13:002008-12-02T11:55:00.000+13:00whoops sorry make that deflationwhoops sorry make that deflationLucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711087393689238053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-69760701361374538712008-12-02T11:53:00.000+13:002008-12-02T11:53:00.000+13:00Inflation is a bugger!Inflation is a bugger!Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711087393689238053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-62581081036290013482008-12-02T11:22:00.000+13:002008-12-02T11:22:00.000+13:0030 virgins, Lucy? I thought it was 72.Must be def...30 virgins, Lucy? I thought it was 72.<BR/><BR/>Must be deflation, eh. Damned credit crunch. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-20399964753340984832008-12-02T11:16:00.000+13:002008-12-02T11:16:00.000+13:00Why arent the 'lovely muslims' up in arms about th...Why arent the 'lovely muslims' up in arms about these terror attacks?<BR/><BR/>I have waited and waited in vain for them to become vocal and tell their bretheren that this is not OK. That Islam is a 'peaceful' religon and they are digusted by these attacks. (perhaps also telling them that 30 virgins wont be waiting for them in paradise as what they are doing is wrong.)<BR/>Makes you wonder doesnt it?Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711087393689238053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-22019397197723567102008-12-02T08:44:00.000+13:002008-12-02T08:44:00.000+13:00"Most of us know that all Muslims aren’t terr..."Most of us know that all Muslims aren’t terrorists, thanks. Most of us aren’t altogether stupid. But the cold, hard truth is that while not all Muslims are terrorists – all terrorists right now would appear to be Muslim."<BR/><BR/>Well said. I was flatting with a Moslem a few years ago, he is a great guy (that was an interesting flat, we had a Catholic, a Protestant, a Moslem and an Atheist - lots of fun!). I also met a very nice Moslem couple at the A&P show a few weeks ago. <BR/><BR/>There are some nice Moslems. But they tend to be the "nominal Moslems", the ones that go by the name but don't follow every last detail of the faith religiously. Moslems can be ok, but Islam is a worry.<BR/><BR/>Islam has threatened the West for centuries. In the past however people were up-front about it and knew they had to fight to keep Islam out of Europe. Now governments are filled with too many wishy-washy lefties who won't recognise the threat until it is too late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-43925738628940520222008-12-02T08:43:00.000+13:002008-12-02T08:43:00.000+13:00Q: Do you think Kasab feels any sorrow...No, of co...Q: Do you think Kasab feels any sorrow...<BR/><BR/>No, of course not. To expect remorse from people with such a totally alien mindset to ours is futile. To even try and get them to see things from our point of view, using our values is pointless - especially when we're talking about extremists.<BR/><BR/>They would not have even have seen the victims as innocent bystanders. Let's face it, from the terrorists' point of view, this is a totally justified war - and one in which only one side will follow the Geneva Conventions - at best, the victims would have been regarded as 'casualties of war'. Non-state armies (if that makes sense) can never fight conventionally, army vs army; they can only ever succeed by creating fear and uncertainty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com