tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post3099353128520214681..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: All things dull and ugly …Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-52721382825885752572009-01-30T14:48:00.000+13:002009-01-30T14:48:00.000+13:00Berend:"I don't see the connection. Is the implica...Berend:<BR/>"I don't see the connection. Is the implication that every creature we see is exactly as God created it? I.e. creationists believe that species cannot and do no change?"<BR/><BR/>That is the implication, it is a straw man put up by people who like to ridicule creationists. In fact, creationists believe that the basic kinds of animals were created (wolves, horses, sheep etc) and these have changed over time through natural and artificial selection into what we have today (all the dog kinds have been bred from the wolf for example). <BR/><BR/>Where creationists differ from evolutionists is that evolutionists believe all kinds of animals can be traced back to one common ancestor. The creationist rejects this as it does not fit with modern Mendelian genetics - which Darwin was not aware of. Mendelian genetics only allows selection from pre-existing traits (hair colour etc), allowing variation within a kind, but not allowing one kind of animal to be bred into a completely different one (you can't breed wings on a dog for example). Mutations do not add genetic information, they tend to damage the information that is there, and although they may occasionally be beneficial and selected for they do not work towards the "onward and upwards" progress required for evolution.<BR/><BR/>Creationists actually believe that creatures have definately changed from what was originally created, the world being created perfect but having deteriorated, with diseases (including parasitic behaviour such as that worm) being degenerate changes, as you suspected.<BR/><BR/>So although I don't agree with any Christian sending hate mail, Attenborough's story is just a straw man, designed to impress those who already agree with him but not actually arguing the point at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-38409904058684036212009-01-30T13:21:00.000+13:002009-01-30T13:21:00.000+13:00Berend: worship the worm, the worm IS God. But ser...Berend: worship the worm, the worm IS God. But seriously, I imagine the worm has more fun living in people's eyes than wriggling around in their toejam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-19514926857351404962009-01-30T01:13:00.000+13:002009-01-30T01:13:00.000+13:00Richard, but did God create this worm or did it de...Richard, but did God create this worm or did it degenerate?Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-30358860324726694902009-01-29T18:17:00.000+13:002009-01-29T18:17:00.000+13:00The creature in question is the loaloa, a blood su...The creature in question is the loaloa, a blood sucking worm (which could really describe most politicians, couldn't it?). <BR/><BR/>Check it out here:<BR/><BR/>http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stanford.edu/class/humbio103/ParaSites2006/Loiasis/Images/loa_loa_eye.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.stanford.edu/class/humbio103/ParaSites2006/Loiasis/Home.html&usg=__TB8Wh0vJXI2ibrYhlDuP_ISIeUc=&h=307&w=412&sz=91&hl=en&start=1&sig2=LPX4piiJ_5VBafwQPMoMIw&um=1&tbnid=kyBwM9MMrJmdhM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=125&ei=RTuBSZjuKI2ssAPXw7zEDQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLoaloa%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enNZ230NZ230%26sa%3DNRichard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11485082980018421590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46302678484855714492009-01-28T21:29:00.000+13:002009-01-28T21:29:00.000+13:00PC: The worm cannot live in any other way, except...PC: <I> The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't see the connection. Is the implication that every creature we see is exactly as God created it?<BR/><BR/>I.e. creationists believe that species cannot and do no change?Berend de Boerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433622686361556089noreply@blogger.com