tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post2693184342784725802..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: Ron PaulPeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-41855472107170851502012-01-11T21:52:40.364+13:002012-01-11T21:52:40.364+13:00Weather Ron Paul is a true libertarian may be deba...Weather Ron Paul is a true libertarian may be debatable but he is definitely percieved to being one. I was just thinking that the fact that he came second in the New Hampshire primaries made me remember the Free State Project from a few years back the premise was that if enough libertarians moved to New Hampshire they could have a disproportionate influence relative to their numbers nationally. Is Ron Paul coming second in New Hampshire primary a sign that this strategy is beginning to work?Michael Fashernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-67521001267167328182012-01-11T19:04:39.748+13:002012-01-11T19:04:39.748+13:00While I can support Ron Paul for the Presidential ...While I can support Ron Paul for the Presidential Election, I would not want him as the Governor of a State. Sure, I don't agree with all of his positions. But by his own count, most of the things I disagree with him on (abortion would be the main one), are not the responsibilty of the Federal government and would be returned to the States!<br /><br />As for things that are the responsibility of the Federal Government, I agree with his position on NAFTA on the condition that it is replaced by a true free trade agreement (as opposed to the bureaucratic managed trade that currently exists.<br /><br />As for foreign policy, I think that Israel is more than capable of defending herself (~200 nukes). I'd have to study the situation in Korea further in order to comment.<br /><br />In short, although Ron Paul is far from perfect, doesn't Federalism negate much of what we disagree on?Tim Ngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-61427508650611743452012-01-11T16:35:15.668+13:002012-01-11T16:35:15.668+13:00My first instinct is to say it's the economy s...My first instinct is to say it's the economy stupid - the most urgently important issue of current times. When Don Brash took the lead of ACT some libertarians advocated support because he is much more sound on economic issues than any other candidate that had a realistic chance of getting into cabinet. Don Brash is certainly not fully libertarian but in the current political context it was perhaps not silly initially at least to consider coming out in support of him. The same attitude may be appropriate with Ron Paul. He is pro free trade - Nafta and Cafta are bureaucratic trade management treaties rather than free trade agreements. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul254.html<br />Paul’s fiscal reform plan:<br />http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/ron-pauls-plan-to-restore-america/ <br /><br />However on each of the other issues Paul is clearly a mixed bag. His official campaign site http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ shows cause for concern as well as much that confirms my opinion that he is more of a step in the direction of more personal freedom than other candidates for president on offer - much as Ronald Regan was by the way. I do not find him to be anti America just because he criticizes some foreign policy. He is for better directed defence against terrorism. He is for better boarder security but not anti immigration, he is against benefits for illegal immigrants.<br />I believe him when he says he is not a racist and that he failed to be cautious about monitoring his newsletter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7qiY-aoiQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player <br />more on this issue here http://www.scribd.com/doc/76280303/PaulNewslettersFaq-Tunk#outer_page_2<br />As for conspiracy theory Paul’s position is that interventions in the middle east have caused blowback. He does not discount the fact that radical Islamists were responsible for the attacks, or that such ideologys are dangerous.Sally O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06166572104269217027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-33830079575055118482012-01-11T13:52:01.921+13:002012-01-11T13:52:01.921+13:00***» is anti-immigration (“to the right of most Re...***» is anti-immigration (“to the right of most Republicans” says Vodka Pundit Steve Green);***<br /><br />No he isn't. He actually favours amnesty for illegals!<br /><br />In any case, low skill immigration from Mexico is a disaster for the US. The subsequent generations do not perform as well as the average european american and the US will lose economic competitiveness as a result. This is already a major problem in California.<br /><br />http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167023Bob Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-63127961264592044292012-01-11T10:57:34.136+13:002012-01-11T10:57:34.136+13:00@ Act Youth :-)
"Is Ron Paul a libertarian?&...@ Act Youth :-)<br /><br />"Is Ron Paul a libertarian?"<br /><a href="http://blog.eternalvigilance.me/2012/01/is-ron-paul-a-libertarian/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.eternalvigilance.me/2012/01/is-ron-paul-a-libertarian/</a>Richardhttp://blog.eternalvigilance.me/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-54267518088467898962012-01-11T07:59:03.642+13:002012-01-11T07:59:03.642+13:00"Is Ron Paul a libertarian?"
http://blog..."Is Ron Paul a libertarian?"<br />http://blog.eternalvigilance.me/2012/01/is-ron-paul-a-libertarian/Act Youthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-28500976042637979352012-01-10T21:25:33.251+13:002012-01-10T21:25:33.251+13:00Great video from Diana Hsieh. Ron is flawed, and D...Great video from Diana Hsieh. Ron is flawed, and Diana articulates why very well.Richard McGrathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763002401676224819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-3942769035506924152012-01-10T21:05:32.035+13:002012-01-10T21:05:32.035+13:00ACT party wasn't libertarian enough in their c...ACT party wasn't libertarian enough in their campaign in the last election (smoking dope), so the finger is now at Ron Paul for not libertarian enough (or pure libertarian).<br /><br />Obviously objectivists like any pedophiles & flip-flopping politicians like Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, etc, but not a part-libertarian like Ron Paul.<br /><br />Ron Paul has brought Austrian economics to the forefront because no one knew shit of what it is. Give the man a fucking credit PC.Act Youthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-80455871865223203442012-01-10T11:35:54.217+13:002012-01-10T11:35:54.217+13:00@libertyscott
Abandon Israel? They are more than ...@libertyscott<br /><br />Abandon Israel? They are more than happy to look after themselves, Benjamin Netanyahu basically said so in a speech to Congress.<br />RP was the only one to defend Israels right to take out Iraqs weapons program in the 1980s.<br /><br />Would Moscow have propped up Syria if USA+Britian hadn't already overthrown Irans democratically elected govt and been playing the empire game in the middle east? I'm no fan of the russian communists (obviously), but the mistakes made in the region by US in that area have directly led to the problems of today vis-a-vis Iran and Osamas band of followers.Vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-13695414581291746512012-01-10T11:20:18.662+13:002012-01-10T11:20:18.662+13:00I agree Ron Paul is not a libertarian, he is howev...I agree Ron Paul is not a libertarian, he is however a transition candidate that at least moves the country in the direction of freedom and eventual freedom from religion.<br /><br />Most people in the United States believe themselves to be christian and would not elect an atheist like myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-83013467905265592862012-01-10T10:47:42.753+13:002012-01-10T10:47:42.753+13:00V- Of course I'm not happy with all of it, but...V- Of course I'm not happy with all of it, but then had the Islamists and the Soviet Union not done so, there would have been little need to do so. <br /><br />It's telling how quick so many are to blame the US for the Middle East, virtually none point out Syria's blood thirsty dictatorship was propped up by Moscow for over 40 years.<br /><br />Yes the US made mistakes, but this doesn't excuse Ron Paul's US bashing, willingness to abandon Israel to Iran, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, and willingness to hand Kim Jong Un a gift by letting South Korea meet North Korea's WMDs without any of their own.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-13414346465251598672012-01-09T23:12:23.006+13:002012-01-09T23:12:23.006+13:00And how can you call someone an advocate of freedo...<i>And how can you call someone an advocate of freedom at all when their vision of a "free society" apparently includes the the freedom to rape twelve-year-old girls?</i><br /><br />You're in the gutter, PC. How are the stars looking?Richardhttp://blog.eternalvigilance.me/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-74204442718609541422012-01-09T22:43:11.753+13:002012-01-09T22:43:11.753+13:00@libertyscott
Are you happy with all the intervent...@libertyscott<br />Are you happy with all the interventions, sanctions and proping up of dictators that has occurred in the middle east?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgav80cpbg&feature=relatedVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46618506075541698022012-01-09T22:28:11.298+13:002012-01-09T22:28:11.298+13:00For all that is good about Ron Paul, it is all utt...For all that is good about Ron Paul, it is all utterly worthless when he is willing to blame the USA for the ills of the world, willing to have a foreign policy that makes the Noam Chomsky sycophants of the "Occupy" movement in the far left smile and plays religious fundamentalism clearer and stronger than Mitt Romney.<br /><br />If Obama had Ron Paul's foreign policy he'd be excoriated by all, except the far left Hollywood and Michael Moore/Chomsky sycophants who hoped he would.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-5836405510340031682012-01-09T21:46:16.570+13:002012-01-09T21:46:16.570+13:00@Mike
Perhaps the blog should be retitled, Not Pu...@Mike<br /><br />Perhaps the blog should be retitled, Not Pure EnoughVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-60876914275137669752012-01-09T21:12:06.844+13:002012-01-09T21:12:06.844+13:00Goodness me. Whilst Ron Paul may not be libertaria...Goodness me. Whilst Ron Paul may not be libertarian per se, he is a darn sight better than any other candidate I have seen in the election to date.<br /><br />What is the point of writing a piece about Paul, decrying his non-libertarian features, when every other candidate makes him look like one by comparison?<br /><br />I mean, would you rather that Santorum won or something?<br /><br />This kind of piece is representative of the greatest failing of the purified objectivist. The inability to accept any shade of gray as being halfway acceptable, instead holding onto the "objectivist good, everything else bad" fantasy dichotomy. <br /><br />The world however, is not painted in black and white. <br /><br />Instead of holding up Paul as an example of a man who shares some of our values, we act like he is the enemy because he does not meet all of our criteria. No, he may not be perfect. But compared to what else is on offer from the GOP...well, you work it out. <br /><br />Getting Obama out of office is the prime consideration. Paul represents a massive step in the right direction and deserves our qualified support.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-72545155686519603762012-01-09T20:50:55.663+13:002012-01-09T20:50:55.663+13:00The best Republican candidate was Gary Johnson:
ht...The best Republican candidate was Gary Johnson:<br />http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/ <br /><br />Sadly he is now seeking the Libertarian nomination, which makes him far less likely to be president than if he had won the Republican nomination. He is the most exciting presidential candidate I have ever seen.Jackienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-7886445055580159682012-01-09T20:40:06.154+13:002012-01-09T20:40:06.154+13:00"The theory of evolution," said Ayn Rand..."The theory of evolution," said Ayn Rand, "is only a hypothesis."<br /><br />Do we conclude, then, that Rand is disqualified from intelligent discussion of virtually everything?Richardhttp://blog.eternalvigilance.me/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-48931096452679346652012-01-09T19:36:49.267+13:002012-01-09T19:36:49.267+13:00I was going to write a longer reply, but I think I...I was going to write a longer reply, but I think I'll just state that your list of bullet points contain some half-truths.<br /><br />Just one ... NAFTA is hardly free trade.Vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-45251822648250350012012-01-09T16:23:22.448+13:002012-01-09T16:23:22.448+13:00http://www.talk2action.org/story/2012/1/6/14215/07...http://www.talk2action.org/story/2012/1/6/14215/07913/Front_Page/Theocratic_Libertarianism_Quotes_from_Gary_North_Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute_ScholarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com