tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post2539706042756807346..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: WARNING: Auckland hasn't got the powerPeter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-86168900874176252462008-06-07T13:22:00.000+12:002008-06-07T13:22:00.000+12:00Uranium is one of the most ubiquitous of metals.If...Uranium is one of the most ubiquitous of metals.<BR/>If you live in a clay area like Auckland there are a couple of kilos in your own backyard.<BR/>However, concentrations worth mining are more limited. The West Coast iron sands are a local resource but would not be cost effective until Australia has mined out its own dirt cheap concentrations.<BR/>But we would never run out of Uranium per se. But then we never run out of anything - it just gets too expensive.Owen McShanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10130002581563595646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-51215252120284920092008-06-06T08:10:00.000+12:002008-06-06T08:10:00.000+12:00"As for the cost of extraction, up to 40% of the w..."As for the cost of extraction, up to 40% of the world's uranium lies just over the ditch".<BR/><BR/> Considering the current governments obsession with "leaving nature untouched", I wouldn't be supprised if there were deposits right here.<BR/><BR/>Then again I am not a geologist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-47316618940734226672008-06-05T22:47:00.000+12:002008-06-05T22:47:00.000+12:00Small countries like Slovakia and Finland have nuc...Small countries like Slovakia and Finland have nuclear power plants. As for the cost of extraction, up to 40% of the world's uranium lies just over the ditch:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_policy<BR/><BR/>So sick of the naysayers holding us back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-59941298700820034802008-06-05T22:32:00.000+12:002008-06-05T22:32:00.000+12:00"More importantly, the energy cost of extracting a..."More importantly, the energy cost of extracting and then shipping the fissionable material to New Zealand outweighs the energy such a station in New Zealand would generate."<BR/><BR/>I'd love to see the source of information you used for that claim, Anon. Do tell.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-77768472775235003502008-06-05T21:34:00.000+12:002008-06-05T21:34:00.000+12:00More importantly, the energy cost of extracting an...More importantly, the energy cost of extracting and then shipping the fissionable material to New Zealand outweighs the energy such a station in New Zealand would generate. Nuclear is just not physically feasible in New Zealand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-11387607888549560362008-06-05T20:12:00.000+12:002008-06-05T20:12:00.000+12:00Yes, I think while there should be no ban on nucle...Yes, I think while there should be no ban on nuclear, the truth is that the economics almost certainly rule it out. The two strangleholds on generation are:<BR/>1. RMA<BR/>2. Government policy heavily restricting CO2 emitting generation<BR/>3. 3 of the major generators are government owned and lack capital, as does Transpower.<BR/><BR/>In the past the Ministry of Works was driven by engineers wanting to build new power plants, constantly. Now there are profit oriented generators that are starved of capital and face a leviathan of planning restrictions. As long as property rights are respected (and that does include air quality) then generation should be built where/when it can produce a worthwhile return on capital.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-61283510176563522182008-06-05T19:25:00.000+12:002008-06-05T19:25:00.000+12:00New Zealand is too small?Compare a conventionally ...New Zealand is too small?<BR/><BR/>Compare a conventionally powered aircraft carrier or sub being fueled up to a nuke powered carrier/sub. One takes days pumping tonnes and tonnes of heavy black oil through a pipe, the other a guy walks up the gangway with a brief case handcuffed to his wrist. Then compare NZ or just Auckland to a sub. Why dosen't it work out?<BR/><BR/>WarwickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-42117022456983748222008-06-05T18:41:00.000+12:002008-06-05T18:41:00.000+12:00Citigroup has a paper out on the cost/economics of...Citigroup has a paper out on the cost/economics of building a nuclear power station. It simply is not an option in NZ - the cost is too great and the population is too small.<BR/><BR/>NZ has been on global high risk alert because of our power supply problems for the last 6 months. <BR/><BR/>Pressure is building on the govt from offshore to actually do something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-72120426631915127952008-06-05T18:26:00.000+12:002008-06-05T18:26:00.000+12:00Eric, Lord Rutherford DISCOVERED a few fundamental...Eric, Lord Rutherford DISCOVERED a few fundamental facts about the structure of the atom. He hardly INVENTED nuclear power plants.<BR/><BR/>And it is a bit of a stretch to extend his discovery to a "we" implying that New Zealanders as a whole can claim his achievements.Luke Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929408708481681826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-19374615359106497872008-06-05T17:27:00.000+12:002008-06-05T17:27:00.000+12:00I'm saying we invented splitting the atom......cau...I'm saying we invented splitting the atom...<BR/><BR/>...cause we did :-)Sir Arthur Streeb-Greeblinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07089215385939482882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-83863317078894338412008-06-05T17:06:00.000+12:002008-06-05T17:06:00.000+12:00Cause they didn't.Cause they didn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-22747769793036089832008-06-05T17:00:00.000+12:002008-06-05T17:00:00.000+12:00Eric,Are you saying that New Zealanders invented n...Eric,<BR/><BR/>Are you saying that New Zealanders invented nuclear power stations?<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>LGMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-79630919710480182252008-06-05T15:44:00.000+12:002008-06-05T15:44:00.000+12:00For the life of me I cannot fathom why a modern cl...For the life of me I cannot fathom why a modern clean safe 24/7 nuclear power plant is so objectionable. We invented the bloody things.Sir Arthur Streeb-Greeblinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07089215385939482882noreply@blogger.com