tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post1715378230204290403..comments2024-03-30T00:09:27.602+13:00Comments on Not PC: Air New Zealand. Ian Wishart. Beat up.Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-41526228527857355072007-08-18T02:04:00.000+12:002007-08-18T02:04:00.000+12:00Well said Craig. Your words will be lost on the Ub...Well said Craig. Your words will be lost on the Uber Libs who are only interested in ideological masturbation.<BR/><BR/>Cresswell, write your essay debunking Christianity, like Wishart challenged you to 18 months ago.<BR/><BR/>Chickenhawk. Fake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-64726666192534038332007-08-17T09:31:00.000+12:002007-08-17T09:31:00.000+12:00Aren't we a shitty little backwater country with a...Aren't we a shitty little backwater country with a shitty little backwater government who you can bet would be shouting long and loud for that great oppressor America to come and rescue us if we were ever attacked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-52365879491518018512007-08-16T17:34:00.000+12:002007-08-16T17:34:00.000+12:00What Craig said. Spot-on.What Craig said. Spot-on.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-46301886768676255342007-08-16T15:45:00.000+12:002007-08-16T15:45:00.000+12:00*sigh* So let's see if I've got this right :-Air ...*sigh* So let's see if I've got this right :-<BR/><BR/>Air New Zealand ran two charter flights to places we are not at war with, and nobody is suggesting that the passengers or cargo contravened any appicable law or regulation.<BR/><BR/>Nor is there any serious question that Air New Zealand openly entered into a legitimate, lawful and binding contract with the ADF for those flights.<BR/><BR/>Nobody know where these soldiers ultimate destination was - or what they were tasked to do when they got there. <BR/><BR/>And it's not Phil Goff or Winston Peters' fucking business anyway. As far as I'm aware, Australia is a sovereign nation that doesn't require a permission slip from the Beehive to conduct its foreign affairs or military policy.<BR/><BR/>So what's the problem - it's politically embarrasing to the Government of the day. Especially when they've been trying to paint John Key as a flip-flopping warmonger who'll have Kiwis coming home in bodybags given half a chance. <BR/><BR/>Well, tough fucking tit folks. Air New Zealand is not just another extension of a paranoid, incompetent and rapidly decaying Government. At least, it shouldn't be.Craig Ranapiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08923246310584658857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-33810289405686578752007-08-16T15:39:00.000+12:002007-08-16T15:39:00.000+12:00Hey it gets even better, as well as potentially go...Hey it gets even better, as well as potentially going to Iraq these troops could also have been going to Lebanon and Afghanistan (no-one knows), according to MFAT. So Labour and teh Greens are getting themselves in a tangled mess opposing an action by Air NZ that could be directly supporting govt policy - ie UN peacekeeping ops.<BR/><BR/>Once again the kneejerk comes back to kick them squarely in the bollocxs<BR/><BR/>Ain’t life grand!<BR/><BR/>Also, where are the Shareholders' Assn and NZX? THey should be very concerned about the restrictions govt is placing on a listed company.<BR/><BR/>InsiderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-38376099036136388282007-08-16T13:31:00.000+12:002007-08-16T13:31:00.000+12:00I'm laughing, I read about this on an airline indu...I'm laughing, I read about this on an airline industry messageboard ages ago - if it hadn't been Air NZ it would've been Qantas or Emirates or someone else. <BR/><BR/>The simple answer is to sell it of course, or Keith Locke could boycott Air NZ, which would reduce his carbon footprint as he could only fly to the 3 main centres.<BR/><BR/>Don't forget this is the same government and Green Party cozying up to blood thirsty child murderers in Pyongyang.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-80447943372656680662007-08-16T12:37:00.000+12:002007-08-16T12:37:00.000+12:00Its probably worth adding this, since just about e...Its probably worth adding this, since just about everybody falls for this fallacy. <BR/><BR/>Does Air NZ's commercial imperative absolve it from making all moral judgments? <BR/><BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>e.g. Should it knowingly transport terrorists from A to B if the price is right? No. Because it is almost certainly not commercial to do so. Why? Because of the damage its reputation suffers, and that translates directly to commercial losses.<BR/><BR/>Air NZ's is required to act in its shareholder's interests. Quite obviously, that does not mean pissing off every one of its customers by behaving very badly. That is bad business. The commercial imperative is sufficient.Matt Burgesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256353079960538374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-61326210981765873462007-08-16T12:26:00.000+12:002007-08-16T12:26:00.000+12:00This is part of the reason governments are inferio...This is part of the reason governments are inferior owners of airlines and most other things (not all). When you're owned publicly, you are then expected to make decisions consistent with the interests of the median voter. As if running an airline were not difficult enough, you have to guess the political cost of any decision, weigh that against commercial imperatives.<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure Air NZ would have been acting unconstitutionally by foregoing the opportunity to do this work, thus revealing the utterly vacuous nature of the argument. You can't give Air NZ a set of rules to run their business by and expect them to act in spite of it.Matt Burgesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256353079960538374noreply@blogger.com