tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post116114170973639200..comments2024-03-22T11:55:50.335+13:00Comments on Not PC: "No Royal Assent to Electoral Act Violations"Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161226335957486652006-10-19T15:52:00.000+13:002006-10-19T15:52:00.000+13:00Just got a screenshot of when it hit 10k, posted i...Just got a screenshot of when it hit 10k, posted it now.deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03002415274366842312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161212571620996512006-10-19T12:02:00.000+13:002006-10-19T12:02:00.000+13:00It's over 7100 now.It's over 7100 now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161209725794276252006-10-19T11:15:00.000+13:002006-10-19T11:15:00.000+13:00Some things never change:"Our government . . . ...Some things never change:<BR/>"Our government . . . teaches the whole people by its example. If the government becomes the lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy." – Louis Brandeis (1856 - 1941) US Supreme Court justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161205948259202992006-10-19T10:12:00.000+13:002006-10-19T10:12:00.000+13:00Hear, hear, RW. *That's* what it's about.Just top...Hear, hear, RW. *That's* what it's about.<BR/><BR/>Just topped the 5300 mark ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161201197460897892006-10-19T08:53:00.000+13:002006-10-19T08:53:00.000+13:00Indeed the power exists. It is one of the more imp...Indeed the power exists. It is one of the more important parts of his job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161194518997732062006-10-19T07:01:00.000+13:002006-10-19T07:01:00.000+13:00The power to withhold assent is listed on the Gove...The power to withhold assent is listed on the Governor General's own website. If it doesn't exist, how come Satyanand thinks he has this power?Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161194133260024792006-10-19T06:55:00.000+13:002006-10-19T06:55:00.000+13:00Lewis is talking bollocks. Royal Assent was withh...Lewis is talking bollocks. Royal Assent was withheld from legislation in Britain as recently as 1999, in Australia in 1976, and Alberta Canada in 1937.<BR/><BR/>It's a bit like saying someone doesn't have the power to refuse to sign a cheque - of course they do! They just don't sign it!Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161179997156944792006-10-19T02:59:00.000+13:002006-10-19T02:59:00.000+13:00Again Lewis,It's not about whether the GG will do ...Again Lewis,<BR/><BR/>It's not about whether the GG will do anything - because he won't - it's about making a stink. In fact it's about getting NZers ~used~ to making a political stink - something that most NZers ~don't do~ because they don't like to think about the long term consequences of political actions undertaken by the Beehive.<BR/><BR/>And that's hw we ended up in this shitty mess in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161152962692565362006-10-18T19:29:00.000+13:002006-10-18T19:29:00.000+13:002705 now. Not bad for such a small country.2705 now. Not bad for such a small country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161152581368425712006-10-18T19:23:00.000+13:002006-10-18T19:23:00.000+13:00I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the Gove...I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the Governor-General doesn't have the power to refuse Royal Assent to legislation. In fact, neither does the Queen.<BR/><BR/>This isn't simply my view, it is the view of almost every British constitutional lawyer since Dicey; and perhaps even before.Lewis Holdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14732618881212335191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161148333362728252006-10-18T18:12:00.000+13:002006-10-18T18:12:00.000+13:00Farrar:"I have even said that some validating legi...Farrar:"I have even said that some validating legislation is desirable and have criticised National's approach to the bill. What I am vocal on is the urgency and the killing off of the lawsuit.<BR/><BR/>I have also resisted linking to the governor-general petition".<BR/><BR/><B>One of these things is just like the other:</B><BR/><BR/>Labour<BR/>Greens<BR/>NZ First<BR/>ACT<BR/>National<BR/>United Future<BR/>Right wing bloggers<BR/><BR/>Sorry I have been unable to leave your magnificence alone - so to speak - once more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161147944020457762006-10-18T18:05:00.000+13:002006-10-18T18:05:00.000+13:00It's true that I wrote it up in haste and omitted ...It's true that I wrote it up in haste and omitted to cite the main focus of the validating legislation. However, the wording is still technically correct, as the spending also breached the Electorate Act, and that is in fact the grounds under which royal assent should be withheld, not that taxpayer money was spent per se.Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161147352511870122006-10-18T17:55:00.000+13:002006-10-18T17:55:00.000+13:00Lyndon, it's all grist for the mill. The more stin...Lyndon, it's all grist for the mill. The more stink that gets kicked up over this & the more unpopular Labour will becomes the more likely Helen will get knifed in the back by her own party.<BR/><BR/>True, she should be doing PD as many ot the people who've 'misappropriated' far less money are doing, but it's something to be getting on with.<BR/><BR/>It might also give Labour pause before it rams through the other legislation it has planned. Namely funding 100% of election campaigns out of taxation and banning free-speech by non-politicians during election campaigns.<BR/><BR/>Remember, things can get worse! Already the police under labour have charged TWO people for sedition this year!!<BR/><BR/>Time to push Helen off the Gravy train by any means necessary!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161146587879219192006-10-18T17:43:00.000+13:002006-10-18T17:43:00.000+13:00Lyndon - You play the game you have not the one yo...Lyndon - You play the game you have not the one you want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161146405873706122006-10-18T17:40:00.000+13:002006-10-18T17:40:00.000+13:00Over 2000 signatures now!Over 2000 signatures now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161145360800810062006-10-18T17:22:00.000+13:002006-10-18T17:22:00.000+13:00I'd have though it might have a larger snowball's ...I'd have though it might have a larger snowball's chance of succeeding if it identified the correct act being retrospectively amended. How will the GG possibly know which bill you're talking about?<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, while I follow the reasoning, there is a certain piquant irony in all the libertarian names on a petition asking an unelected head of state to override the will of Parliament. Interesting times.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it has gone up rather quickly.Lyndonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622953598107216261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1161143905355147422006-10-18T16:58:00.000+13:002006-10-18T16:58:00.000+13:00I have signed it and have been watching it since t...I have signed it and have been watching it since then and it has gone up by more than 100 signatures in that time!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com