tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post1029857158959894862..comments2024-03-29T10:51:27.752+13:00Comments on Not PC: Responding to the Census demand.Peter Cresswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-40557880396482646332013-03-05T09:53:21.356+13:002013-03-05T09:53:21.356+13:00Bless, poor wee Randroids. Days like this must be ...Bless, poor wee Randroids. Days like this must be terrible upsetting, watching the vast majority of people either quietly filling their forms in, or actually excited to be doing so.<br /><br />I know self awareness isn't your strong suit, but surely it must bring home to you to some degree the futility of your little religious cult. <br /><br />Of all the ludicrously incoherent contradiction of your beliefs, what to do with people who simply don't by your first principles and never will is the most basic and one I've never seen any member of your cult be able to give a decent answer..<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-84064970444736347532013-02-28T23:10:57.294+13:002013-02-28T23:10:57.294+13:00If you can't be arssed no doing the tax but wa...If you can't be arssed no doing the tax but want to make a goose of yourself pretending that not doing the census is worth a damn go ahead and pretend you are being principled. You aint being principled doing that my man. All you are doing is pretending. Posing. Taking an intellectual wank in public and spoofing all over your own trouser leg. You ar only doing the census in because you reckon it'll only cost a little penalty. If it was the punishment for not doing the census was 5 years in the can and many strokes of the Singapore jail cane, then, all yous posers would fill it in right away. There would be noe pretending of "principled" because there is no principle here. You want principle, grow some.<br /><br />Amit Cim Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-78651472929170713562013-02-27T09:52:11.280+13:002013-02-27T09:52:11.280+13:00@Blair: WTF is a chickenhawk in this context?
Any...@Blair: WTF is a chickenhawk in this context?<br /><br />Anyway, no one is choosing a form of protest to impress you.<br /><br />Protesting the census is a principled protest against govt intrusion that can be made without being run over by a prosecutorial road train, that comes with a day in court in which to make your statement of principle.<br /><br />Refusing to pay your taxes on the other hand come with the sort of sacrifice only the likes of Irwin Schiff is prepared to make, a sacrifice of almost your whole adult life, and with no likelihood whatsoever of effecting change because of it.Peter Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699845031503699181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-70486022640480071982013-02-27T09:41:15.202+13:002013-02-27T09:41:15.202+13:00The whole census protest thing strikes me as a lit...The whole census protest thing strikes me as a little chickenhawkish. If you want to refuse to pay your taxes, on the other hand, I might be more impressed.Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02865567065778234500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-10541367267297651032013-02-26T13:27:45.556+13:002013-02-26T13:27:45.556+13:00I know this is an OT comment, but are there any li...I know this is an OT comment, but are there any libertarian/ancap groups or similar meetings in the Tauranga, BOP area? Just got back from Korea (incredibly statist, but had internet)and all the statists here are driving me up the wall (my parents mostly!) I have searched online, but haven't found anything as yet. Any suggestions? <br />Again, sorry for OT but didn't know where else to go...<br /><br />Any pointers or corrections would be more than welcome.<br /><br />As to the census, I will not fill it out. <br /><br />KonradAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-20293419835789395452013-02-26T11:50:35.441+13:002013-02-26T11:50:35.441+13:00"Interesting to note that there is an opt out..."Interesting to note that there is an opt out clause on question 25; for women only. Why's that?"<br /><br />It may be that a woman gave birth to a child that was adopted out and it's a private matter to her? Certainly happened in the baby boom generation.<br /><br />A caller to Michael Laws, a male, objected to not being asked how many children he was a biological father to, given question 25. So much so he was refusing to complete the census.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-15500352860098302172013-02-26T09:22:07.580+13:002013-02-26T09:22:07.580+13:00Thor42 your off topic madness, fear and hate rega...Thor42 your off topic madness, fear and hate regarding Muslims is alarming.<br /> Your crude fear mongering aside, the only people yet supporting this Census are people who don't have even one reason for supporting it. <br />Reason for the Census lacking the paid shrills are trying to generate a fear of other people. <br />Thor go and try to think up one reason why people(not bank of england chattels)should have their privacy violated.<br /><br />Here's a thought- some people think of their personal info as personal property (as it is in the case of intellectual property). We can all see who has taken over here in NZ (and its not Islam).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-52331392805662563612013-02-26T08:01:16.669+13:002013-02-26T08:01:16.669+13:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dintherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444894238003853527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-36234612903904984082013-02-25T21:53:32.709+13:002013-02-25T21:53:32.709+13:00@Peter - thanks for doing so. You did your best. ...<br />@Peter - thanks for doing so. You did your best. It has gone.<br /><br />@thor24 - Ask yourself what questions 14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,33-46 have to do with planning? <br /><br />@Lindsay - Heh. Thanks. <br /><br />Interesting to note that there is an opt out clause on question 25; for women only. Why's that?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sam Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09035978404256500568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-18198250467466790282013-02-25T21:09:37.840+13:002013-02-25T21:09:37.840+13:00Btw, anonymous - if, by "human rights violati...Btw, anonymous - if, by "human rights violations" you meant the census (rather than Islam) - I would say "pick your fights wisely". <br />If Islam takes over here, you'll have a darned sight *more* to worry about than a census..... <br /> thor42noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-62240096489060488512013-02-25T20:55:59.643+13:002013-02-25T20:55:59.643+13:00Dear anonymous - you ask me "Why do you suppo...Dear anonymous - you ask me "Why do you support human rights violations and spread xenophobia(hate)?" <br /><br />I do #NOT# support human rights violations! That is exactly my point! Islam violates human rights *every second of the day* around the world! <br /><br />How much do you know about Islam, anonymous? *Nothing*. I would say, given that you seem to think that it is a "paragon of virtue". <br /><br />Islam is EVIL and that is why I oppose it. <br /><br />"Xenophobia"? <br />No. A phobia is an "irrational fear of something". There is NOTHING "irrational" about fearing (and disliking) Islam. <br /><br />Here, anonymous - do yourself a favour and LEARN about Islam from those who have "been there, done that" - <br />http://www.apostatesofislam.com/<br /><br />Quote - "But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits." <br /><br />There. See? They say exactly what I am saying. Islam is evil. <br /> <br />thor42noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-41013151368404081172013-02-25T20:53:14.327+13:002013-02-25T20:53:14.327+13:00I can't be a hypocrite. The information that i...I can't be a hypocrite. The information that is gathered is very useful. Not for government planning but showing how government intervention has detrimental effects on family formation, state dependence, incomes, etc. But good luck.<br /><br />(The other survey sources for these sorts of information inter-Census are even more invasive. They tie up a lot of personal time and are compulsory. I was recruited to the HLFS for 2 years. Tiresome. And I'd question the quality of information it gathers given the quality of my three- monthly telephone interview responses.)Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-16802450522431574372013-02-25T20:27:06.623+13:002013-02-25T20:27:06.623+13:00There is a right, you are just referring to pers...There is a right, you are just referring to persons as chattels/property of the Crown( Corporation of the Bank of england). <br />There is such a thing as a right of a human being.<br /> <br /> Michael is right they want to sell the personal data.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-85246675330046877332013-02-25T20:01:23.621+13:002013-02-25T20:01:23.621+13:00Just do what I do and in every question answer whe...Just do what I do and in every question answer where the information is already collected and request they refer to it. I've yet to work out why we actually need a census when IRD, Transit, MSD, etc. already have far more accurate data. They know the Census data is wrong.<br /><br />Stats just want the data to sell to the private sector, anyway. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03143204319427258454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-80834148414777120202013-02-25T19:40:00.578+13:002013-02-25T19:40:00.578+13:00data can be useful for the *public* too
There is ...<i> data can be useful for the *public* too</i><br /><br />There is no such thing a society [aka the public].<br /><br /><i> is "government planning" necessary? </i><br /><br />no. it is always unmitigated evil. <br /><br /><br /><i> Why do you support human rights violations</i><br /><br />There is no such thing as "human rights". There is private property, and rights to that property.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-23271825250073423182013-02-25T19:37:54.385+13:002013-02-25T19:37:54.385+13:00Dear Mr rightwing xenophobe did you not know that... Dear Mr rightwing xenophobe did you not know that all the data the govt needs to make plans it already has?<br />It has the numbers (ie it has the unemployment figures it knows about the massive buy up of the nation by china).<br />Or do you think it used the figures it had in 2006 to do some planning for medical funding and aged care?<br /> On planet earth this " planning" does not even exist (at least for this nations people's needs).<br /> Why do you support human rights violations and spread xenophobia(hate)? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-10045203939928132342013-02-25T18:51:59.993+13:002013-02-25T18:51:59.993+13:00Umm.... I do have a question here.
I'm as ri...Umm.... I do have a question here. <br /><br />I'm as right-wing as they come, but how is it possible for a government to plan if it doesn't have reasonably accurate census data? <br /><br />I would also make the point that census data can be useful for the *public* too - not just the government. <br />A good example - I believe that Islam is bad, so I will be very interested to find out the number of Muslims now living in the country (and where they are most concentrated). <br /><br />Question two - is "government planning" necessary? (I tend to believe that at least *some* level of planning is needed, but I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise...). <br /> thor42noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-9002505885815460252013-02-25T18:50:45.915+13:002013-02-25T18:50:45.915+13:00I like to know what happens if you don't answe...I like to know what happens if you don't answer the door? The guy just knocked and I could not be bothered to answer the door.Dintherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09444894238003853527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-34934502643733510412013-02-25T16:55:09.115+13:002013-02-25T16:55:09.115+13:00Is it is my understanding that there are no lawyer...Is it is my understanding that there are no lawyers in the house?<br /><br /> No offense but if Nik got fined I believe he just used an incorrect legal defense (and burning the Census form enflames totalitarian dictatorships).<br />The latest strategy sounds a bit like like S&M to me.<br />Know the loopholes, its better than a strategy of being (politely) aggressive towards the govt. <br />Good luck I hope you get the numbers for it. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-25684195901255135892013-02-25T16:39:49.221+13:002013-02-25T16:39:49.221+13:00At least in the US they have the second amendment ...At least in the US they have the second amendment & castle doctrine to deal with government communism in the only language it understands!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-1287553276498976102013-02-25T16:22:32.419+13:002013-02-25T16:22:32.419+13:00Protesting against NZ On Air cost me about $1500 (...Protesting against NZ On Air cost me about $1500 (not including time and other costs); and can't say that standing for a cause did much good at all ~ waste of effort and money<br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11906042.post-57787469379996120042013-02-25T14:59:01.118+13:002013-02-25T14:59:01.118+13:00And a link to another of your nutters.
http://www...And a link to another of your nutters.<br /><br />http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/news/party-rebels-over-intrusive-census/1768322/PM of NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02095175012980278919noreply@blogger.com